Ah shit...a good ol' fashioned e-argument. Doesn't get any better than that. Normally I don't get involved in these...but why not. How foolish do *you* sound? lol. Mr. "I pay strippers $40 for 3 minutes of grinding because I can." What the fuck is the difference between a $40 handjob and a $25 handjob? There's a difference between not being able to "afford" $40 dances and choosing not to buy $40 dances. Next time *think* before you post.
You fags whining about your $40 here and there make me
laugh. You broke ass bitches shouldn't even THINK of walking
into this club. If you can't afford to party, STAY HOME! I love
giving money to strippers, but then again I can afford it. I love
having a good time, and helping these poor little girls out
with their rent or drug habits or who cares what. And it's not
about having game, it's about being cool enough to not give a
FUCK about nickels and dimes, and just having good times.
Spending more money doesn't necessarily get you more. It just means you spent more money than me...for the same thing. If that makes you "the man"...so be it. But anyways...I remember when this place was Diamond Cabaret...there was more nudity and more contact at the stage. Since dances are $40 here, I've only gotten a dance one...and the contact was decent...but it was because I already "knew" the dancer. I figured why spend $40 on a semi-lame dance here when I can go to Roxy's or Pt's centerville and get a full contact dance for $25. In my opinion, that seems smarter than spending lots of money on drinks just to get extra attention. But that's just me...I may be wrong.
Spend lots of time, money and drinks getting A STRIPPER to be high contact for 3 minutes in the back? When, if you know what you're doing and pick the right girl, you will get all you can handle for the standard $40 dance price?
So you have "game" with PROFESSIONAL STRIPPERS, huh? Who, exactly, is the loser? If you had real game (just like any of us), you wouldn't even be in here.
If you're a creepy perverted loser you're not going to get much
contact with anything but your own hand. I've done it all over
there, had plenty of pussy in my face at stages, plenty of full
contact. I've done everything you can imagine in the back with
dozens of different girls. You've just got to be cool, and spend
lots of money on drinks to get the inhibitions to come down.
You can't rush it, and you've got to have the right moves.
Practice, gentlemen, practice! Don't be a cheap fuck!
No, touching a nipple is not prostitution. Good grief!!! This is a club rule. They consider the club to be upscale with the girls all wearing long dresses and restrictions on excessive piercings. It is a non-nude club and they claim that the girls are more attractive than other clubs.
When I went last saturday there was quite a bit of contact at the stage. It could just be the time frame I went in (6:00pm - 11:00pm), but I was really surprised at how much touching there was. There was also a lot in the private dance area, I went with a group of friends and all of us went back with different dancers, each one of us had a girl who did a lot of contact. Maybe it just depends on what times you go in, but it was definately fun and made me want to go back.
The last comment must have been from an employee of the club. I understand you wanting to stand up for your club, but we have to also give realistic reviews to save people time and money. In comparison to every other club in esl...there is virtually no contact at the stage here. If you consider her touching your shoulder with her hands as contact...then yes there's contact. I will agree with you about the private dances. If you find the right girl, you may get a great dance...but the downside is...you have to keep spending $40 a dance until you find the right girl.
...Does have contact on there stage. I believe if you touch the nipple it is considered prostitution. However I am not sure, maybe the manager can post the actuall rules. As far as the privates go, It's damn worth 40 dollars. Full friction/contact, strip clubs across the US doesn't get better than this! Penthouse is by far the nicest club with contact in area!
You couldnt be more accurate with your posts not only on this club but a few others in the area. It seems like no one actually goes to this club anymore.I've been going to clubs in the area for over 5 years and this one has always been lame. I'd say that PT's sports or centreville are the ones for best physical contact.
All this wasted talk about Cali. We're sitting here dogging her...but that doesn't change the fact that she's already made the magazine. It's done. Let's be more productive with our posts. We sound like bitter women in a cat fight. One of the reasons I don't go to this club often is that most of the girls don't show anything other than their tits. And there's usually almost no contact at the stage (in comparison to other clubs). Has anyone experienced anything differently? If so...when are the best days...times?
May be the club could just have a vote from there customers who they feel is up to the standards of making it into the magazine..As for Cali she entered and was chosen get over it.Credit should be given to her and all that attempted to try out
I went out and got the Nov issue and I have to agree with the comments posted so far. Cali is very average. She needs to do something with her hair. There are many other better looking girls at the club. ouch!!
Now Gina from Chicago rocks!!! By far the best looking girl there.
Cali's eyes are too far apart, she has weird tits, and she's a
lesbian. She's also totally stuck up and conceited when she's
one of the most average girls in the club. I GUESS it's neat that
she's in the calendar or the magazine, but really, who the fuck
cares? Oh yeah, and if you've ever spoken to Cali you'll know
that she's dumb as a fucking ROCK on top of it all. She is SO
annoying, I can't wait for her to "retire" to Penthouse glory. Go
on, little doggie! Woof woof!
Went to Penthouse for the first time this weekend. Had a great time, especially after Dallas and Lucky got there. Those two are nice, entertaining and very beautiful. Look forward to seeing them again sometime. Would love to know their schedule.
What is wrong with the management at this club? First they allow Heidi/Dakota/Holly Monroe whatever her name is to run the VIP Room which has totally gone downhill since. Then with all the hot girls they could sponsor for a magazine shoot they choose Cali who is average at best. Very poor decisions by management.
I really don't care if you pay taxes...or if you claim you have 6 degrees, but choose to be a 35 year old stripper...or if your mom kicked you out when you were 16...or that your baby daddy left you when you got pregnant. Doesn't really matter to me. I love strippers. I think it's a great industry. Gives guys the chance to "talk" to women they wouldn't normally stand a chance with in the "real" world. Nothing wrong with that. But as you said before, this is a pointless conversation. Until someone proves me otherwise, I will believe that all strippers are ultimately the same. But as long as there are hot women willing to take their clothes off for money...I have no problem with that. :)
One of the girls told me about this. It was a contest and girls had to submit pictures to Penthouse. Only 4 or 5 girls from St Louis sent in pictures. Cali had professionally taken pictures paid for by the club. She was chosen because club management picked her. The other girls who entered even though they might have been better looking weren't considered. End of story.
Cali is an average girl at that. I just do not understand why she would be picked. WTF? It makes the rumors seem true. They're are way more beautiful girls at penthouse and she is definitely not one of them
Sometimes the best looking girls are camera shy. Appearing in a national magazine would be with you for life. Pictures don't die, they just can viewed forever. Kind of reduces your odds of running for President.
i would have to say to start with olivia and darryl in my eyes they are the most beautiful two in there in others eyes they may not but then again some of us have 20/20 vision and others need lens crafters...
I am a customer and I am on your side on this. Just to think that this could have happended to most of us. But my question to you is, do you have anyone who would be willing to tesify on your behalf? If not, it would your word against theirs and they may have 2 or 3 witneses who would lie and say it was all your fault.
The dancer should have been fired immediately. Good luck!!!
Every employee of the PT's Clubs pays taxes. We are paid $3.90 and hour and have to declare our tips on a signed time card. This is how most restaurant employees everywhere are paid. If you do not declare enought you have a hard time getting an apartment/home, car loan, credit cards etc. Also you do not get any credit for Social Security, Work Comp... The "strippers" are independent contractors. Like all independent contractors everywhere, in every business, they are responsible for paying taxes, health insurance, their uniforms/costumes and so on. You would be surprised how many of these independent contractors do pay quarterly taxes. They are the smart ones.
Why call yourself strippers? you're entertainers. we come in spend money and in exchange you dance for us. we're paying for entertainment. who gives if you do or you don't pay taxes. this tax topic is way overated. im still sleeping at night ok if you know what i mean.
penthouse keep doing you thing, i love your club and most of the girls. this club is by far the best out of east saint louis
Jeez there must be sone guy on here who is totally obcessed with Amber. Please let's change topics and post about something else. Hopefully the guy isn't a stalker or something. Give it a rest and leave Amber alone.
This conversation is going no where. I am the only one who has been defending Amber. Amber is smart. She knows how to use her body to make money. Who can blame for that? Certainly, not me. ANd she will continue to make $$ as long as we (patrons of the club) pay $$ to see her take off her clothes.
TO Amber: I admire your guts and determination. I have been in several times but not usually on Friday or Sat. HOpe to see you some time in the future
It is not an attack when when when a self admited tax evader states so.she is a loser and everyone else who aviods paying bthere due amount of taxes .as for my adility to pay for a vip i could buy anything i want at a drop of hat
almost a vip guy b/c i chose not 2
first u probably cant even afford vip. second you DID personally attack her... saying someone is a total loser isn't an attack in your book? if u got paid all in cash u wouldn't report every dollar either. thats how cash jobs work. go somewhere else and rip on the people who babysit your kids while you're wasting your money "almost every night" on tits and ass. the babysitters dont pay taxes either.
I have not attacked you at all . you indicated you dont pay taxes on your earnings as a stripper this is illegal as for schooling and work history i could care less and fyi i am in the club almost everyday.
almost a vip guy
I'm tired of this conversation. Clearly it isn't going anywhere. You'll continue to attack me on SCL without ever setting foot in the club, stuck in your narrow-minded stereotypes, and I will continue to have a positive attitude and pursue my life's goals. Neither of us will change our minds.
So, since I can tell you're the type to have last words, feel free. I'll simply smile at them and get back to work on my graduate studies.
To those who've been defending me, I greatly appreciate you and can't wait to see you in the club in the next few weeks.
that not only is a bachelor's degree worthless, so is a master's? You're saying employers place no value whatsoever on advanced or terminal degrees? I wonder what field you work in (or are unemployed in) that leads to those conclusions.
Let's also discuss your assumptions that I had no "real world" experience in my field between undergrad and graduate- a false one, of course- your lack of information and insight grows more profound each post. Let's also consider: if I were a Penthouse waitress funding my education and not a dancer, would you consider my efforts so wasted? If I were a factory worker or corporate drone (making thousands less of course), would you approach me and tell me I'm worthless to society? (Rhetorical)
I have no idea if other strippers pay there the amount of taxes but this stripper ie... amber admits she doesn t what more
needs to be said. thank god for a liberal education from washington u.
almost a vip guy
first of all it wasnt the truth tht brought this to light/i do agree with the truth /as for others that dont pay taxes they are pure n simple crimanals this sttripper has admitted it. shes a total loser
almost a vip guy
Baby, any fucking moron can get a college degree. The
FUNNIEST part of your story is that you think you've somehow
out-smarted the system by waiting YEARS before starting your
"career." Wash U may have been impressed by your high
school transcripts and credits from community college, but no
employer is going to look at your complete lack of experience
as an attribute. Your best bet is to keep whorin', and forget
about the "real world." You don't stand a chance.
You are being too hard on strippers about not paying taxes. There are a lot of cash business that dont pay taxes on all their earnings: bar tenders, hair dressers, barbers, waiters, taxi cab drivers, etc. The list goes on and on. The IRS just does not have a good way to police all of this. Sad but it is The Truth
Oh this is good! So...what happens when your child gets sick? You take them to the hospital covered by state aid? A system which you proudly admit not paying into? Interesting. Secondly...who spends hundreds of thousands of dollars on college...not to pursue a career? Is there some sort of stripper pension or stripper health insurance? I'm not trying to personally attack you, but I have to admit that I've heard some variation of your story at least a thousand times. :)
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