What is wrong with the management at this club? First they allow Heidi/Dakota/Holly Monroe whatever her name is to run the VIP Room which has totally gone downhill since. Then with all the hot girls they could sponsor for a magazine shoot they choose Cali who is average at best. Very poor decisions by management.
I really don't care if you pay taxes...or if you claim you have 6 degrees, but choose to be a 35 year old stripper...or if your mom kicked you out when you were 16...or that your baby daddy left you when you got pregnant. Doesn't really matter to me. I love strippers. I think it's a great industry. Gives guys the chance to "talk" to women they wouldn't normally stand a chance with in the "real" world. Nothing wrong with that. But as you said before, this is a pointless conversation. Until someone proves me otherwise, I will believe that all strippers are ultimately the same. But as long as there are hot women willing to take their clothes off for money...I have no problem with that. :)
One of the girls told me about this. It was a contest and girls had to submit pictures to Penthouse. Only 4 or 5 girls from St Louis sent in pictures. Cali had professionally taken pictures paid for by the club. She was chosen because club management picked her. The other girls who entered even though they might have been better looking weren't considered. End of story.
Cali is an average girl at that. I just do not understand why she would be picked. WTF? It makes the rumors seem true. They're are way more beautiful girls at penthouse and she is definitely not one of them
Sometimes the best looking girls are camera shy. Appearing in a national magazine would be with you for life. Pictures don't die, they just can viewed forever. Kind of reduces your odds of running for President.
i would have to say to start with olivia and darryl in my eyes they are the most beautiful two in there in others eyes they may not but then again some of us have 20/20 vision and others need lens crafters...
I am a customer and I am on your side on this. Just to think that this could have happended to most of us. But my question to you is, do you have anyone who would be willing to tesify on your behalf? If not, it would your word against theirs and they may have 2 or 3 witneses who would lie and say it was all your fault.
The dancer should have been fired immediately. Good luck!!!
Every employee of the PT's Clubs pays taxes. We are paid $3.90 and hour and have to declare our tips on a signed time card. This is how most restaurant employees everywhere are paid. If you do not declare enought you have a hard time getting an apartment/home, car loan, credit cards etc. Also you do not get any credit for Social Security, Work Comp... The "strippers" are independent contractors. Like all independent contractors everywhere, in every business, they are responsible for paying taxes, health insurance, their uniforms/costumes and so on. You would be surprised how many of these independent contractors do pay quarterly taxes. They are the smart ones.
Why call yourself strippers? you're entertainers. we come in spend money and in exchange you dance for us. we're paying for entertainment. who gives if you do or you don't pay taxes. this tax topic is way overated. im still sleeping at night ok if you know what i mean.
penthouse keep doing you thing, i love your club and most of the girls. this club is by far the best out of east saint louis
Jeez there must be sone guy on here who is totally obcessed with Amber. Please let's change topics and post about something else. Hopefully the guy isn't a stalker or something. Give it a rest and leave Amber alone.
This conversation is going no where. I am the only one who has been defending Amber. Amber is smart. She knows how to use her body to make money. Who can blame for that? Certainly, not me. ANd she will continue to make $$ as long as we (patrons of the club) pay $$ to see her take off her clothes.
TO Amber: I admire your guts and determination. I have been in several times but not usually on Friday or Sat. HOpe to see you some time in the future
It is not an attack when when when a self admited tax evader states so.she is a loser and everyone else who aviods paying bthere due amount of taxes .as for my adility to pay for a vip i could buy anything i want at a drop of hat
almost a vip guy b/c i chose not 2
first u probably cant even afford vip. second you DID personally attack her... saying someone is a total loser isn't an attack in your book? if u got paid all in cash u wouldn't report every dollar either. thats how cash jobs work. go somewhere else and rip on the people who babysit your kids while you're wasting your money "almost every night" on tits and ass. the babysitters dont pay taxes either.
I have not attacked you at all . you indicated you dont pay taxes on your earnings as a stripper this is illegal as for schooling and work history i could care less and fyi i am in the club almost everyday.
almost a vip guy
I'm tired of this conversation. Clearly it isn't going anywhere. You'll continue to attack me on SCL without ever setting foot in the club, stuck in your narrow-minded stereotypes, and I will continue to have a positive attitude and pursue my life's goals. Neither of us will change our minds.
So, since I can tell you're the type to have last words, feel free. I'll simply smile at them and get back to work on my graduate studies.
To those who've been defending me, I greatly appreciate you and can't wait to see you in the club in the next few weeks.
that not only is a bachelor's degree worthless, so is a master's? You're saying employers place no value whatsoever on advanced or terminal degrees? I wonder what field you work in (or are unemployed in) that leads to those conclusions.
Let's also discuss your assumptions that I had no "real world" experience in my field between undergrad and graduate- a false one, of course- your lack of information and insight grows more profound each post. Let's also consider: if I were a Penthouse waitress funding my education and not a dancer, would you consider my efforts so wasted? If I were a factory worker or corporate drone (making thousands less of course), would you approach me and tell me I'm worthless to society? (Rhetorical)
I have no idea if other strippers pay there the amount of taxes but this stripper ie... amber admits she doesn t what more
needs to be said. thank god for a liberal education from washington u.
almost a vip guy
first of all it wasnt the truth tht brought this to light/i do agree with the truth /as for others that dont pay taxes they are pure n simple crimanals this sttripper has admitted it. shes a total loser
almost a vip guy
Baby, any fucking moron can get a college degree. The
FUNNIEST part of your story is that you think you've somehow
out-smarted the system by waiting YEARS before starting your
"career." Wash U may have been impressed by your high
school transcripts and credits from community college, but no
employer is going to look at your complete lack of experience
as an attribute. Your best bet is to keep whorin', and forget
about the "real world." You don't stand a chance.
You are being too hard on strippers about not paying taxes. There are a lot of cash business that dont pay taxes on all their earnings: bar tenders, hair dressers, barbers, waiters, taxi cab drivers, etc. The list goes on and on. The IRS just does not have a good way to police all of this. Sad but it is The Truth
Oh this is good! So...what happens when your child gets sick? You take them to the hospital covered by state aid? A system which you proudly admit not paying into? Interesting. Secondly...who spends hundreds of thousands of dollars on college...not to pursue a career? Is there some sort of stripper pension or stripper health insurance? I'm not trying to personally attack you, but I have to admit that I've heard some variation of your story at least a thousand times. :)
I cant recall ever seeing some one with 3 piercing, 2 yes but not 3. Very interesting. HOw does one go about seeing them? And to think that I am planning on being there this Saturday and you be out celebrating your 23th (guess) birthday.
in case u havent noticed, whenever personal attacks start it means u struck a nerve. so good job! any publicity is good publicity they say, Also in case u didnt know this same "truth" guy posts all over every clubin IL/midwest, so he has nothing better to do than sit around on his computer and bash people he'll never meet. guarantee hes never seen u dance. i think if my life was that sad id probably be a bitter dickhead too. keep doin what you do!
that society's priorities are so backward that ANY career I chose to pursue with my two bachelor's degrees would not pay a starting salary even half as high as taking my clothes off, which I could do even without a high school diploma (and many do).
What other job could I do that would let me complete my studies with the highest output (in dollars per hour) for my time? At what other job could I set my own hours, choose my own clients, and never pay taxes? Think about it from an economic standpoint. Stripping makes sense right now.
Oh, and "dumb as a rock" wasn't exactly on my acceptance letter from WashU.
You are too harsh on Amber. Let her get her graduate degree and then let's see what she does with it. If she keeps on stripping, then you are right. She might be one of the smart ones who is actually doing this to get ahead and stay ahead. Let's hope so.
Also, such negative comments cause the girls not to post here and I dont blame them
most have regulars that pay weekly anywhere from 500 to 2000 a week i ve asked these women why would a guy pay that much money and not have sex with the stripper.they just always smile and say no sex, , well some i beleive most i dont. well if a man gives that much cash and no sex he is so messed up looking for attention
almost a vip guy
Finally, a good and accurate definition of a whore. However, not all strippers are whores. I have been shot down more than once on touching even after offering hundreds of dollars. Obviously, I am asking the wrong girls.
Of course all strippers are whores. It didn't use to be this way....but to me the "touching" makes all the difference. I've never been in a private in any east side club, including Penthouse, where you couldn't grope the girl all over, every square inch, and most of the time inside square inches, for sexual satisfaction.
News flash: that's a whore.
Dearest Amber, you are about as dumb as a rock. After
achieving the dubious distinction of TWO, count 'em, TWO
bachelors degrees, stripping is the best you could come up
with? Did you ever think about starting a CAREER? Sweetheart,
you obviously didn't learn much from those correspondence
courses. Wash U? HA! Why don't you Wash ME... you MIGHT be
qualified enough to wipe my ass. Hint: we can use your
diplomas for toilet paper.
hey the calendar should be in the club this week. also... the November issue of penthouse comes out the first week of october and i am in it several times as well. please vote for me for me for Feb. pet of '08 by texting CALI to 82000 and then a wallpaper of me will be sent to your cell. yay. also if you have not heard i competed in jamaica for '2007 penthouse key girl of the year ... and i Won. Yay Again. so come see me at the club b/c i will only be there until the end of this year. have a good day all of you and i hope to see you soon.
You cant put all strippers into one category except that they all work for money. Why else would they strip? As to extras, not all will do extras even for big $$$$. The ones you have to feel sorry for are the ones that get caught up in the life style. Lots of clothes, fast cars, etc. Once they start down this road, it is all so hard to turn back. $8 or $10 an hour just can't keep the same life style. The really, really sad stories are the one who turn to alcohol or drugs. It is all down from then on.
What is so great about the vip area? i have been back there and its pretty boring. the people that go back there think they are better than anyone else. the bartenders used to be better, and you would think if you paid $2000 for the membership they would cut you a break on the drinks, but no they are more expensive. wtf
I agree, Heidi/Dakota/Holly Monroe, whatever the hell her name is. Management should get her out of the VIP Club and have her go back to stripping. I will not be renewing my membership until she is out of there.
to mention that I agree with you. MOST strippers do extras on the side. Most girls have their price, be it dollars, trips, or clothing. I'm not denying what I've seen with my own eyes in dingy back rooms all over the country. Stereotypes originate for a reason.
The point I'm making is that every stereotype has exceptions, and absolutes can't really exist in regard to groups of people.
Will be gone for the rest of the weekend, looking forward to the drama on here when I get back!
I'm in graduate school. Disbelieve, trash me all you want hiding behind your computer screen, but no- I'm not an aspiring nurse. I have my two bachelor's degrees already, and I can split off into the cesspool dubbed corporate america where you waste your mind any day if I so choose.
I moved to this shithole you call a city for one reason only- to get my Master's at WashU. OH MY GOD, a stripper with brains! And yes, I've been offered ridiculous sums of money for just one night, or for just one little hand job- but I'm just not willing to do that. Sorry to inform you that not everyone fits into your miniscule experience of the world.
Have a wonderful day! Oh, and dances are $40, thanks for asking!
Show of hands...is anyone here buying this? Look...I'm not in the business of dissing strippers. I think it's a wonderful industry...I love strippers...but let's not fool ourselves. I've never met a stripper that wouldn't give some type of sexual favor for a few extra dollars. The whole "I'm going to school to be a nurse so I won't be doing this long" story is so over-used. Strippers who use that story are the same girls you still see stripping 7 years later. The truth is...we don't care. We know it's all game. We just want to know how much you're charging for private dances.
That I don't have sex for money? Hmm- seems like that would take quite a bit of work if the opposite were true. It's unfortunate you've had to spend so much of your life involved with less-than-upstanding people.
Every single stripper is definitely the same. They all dabble in prostitution, no matter what. There are zero exceptions in the entire business.
What about those of us paying for school? Not one of us can simply be taking advantage of this sovereign capitalist sexually-charged male-dominated nation in order to further our higher education? I'm so glad I read this today; I had no idea I was a prostitute. If I'd known that I'd probably have a lot more money. I'm so glad you set me straight.
lol @ "strippers aren't whores". You really need to take your cape off and stop trying to be the defender of strippers. Strippers are professional actresses. They can make you believe almost anything they want you to believe. The bottom line is that they're taking their clothes off for money, and they're still hooking up with customers for money. Doesn't matter if she's the nicest girl in the world...or if you think she's "different" from other strippers. It just means that she deserves an Oscar. Just go in and enjoy your lap dance...that's what they're there for.
Most dancers are actually married or lesbians... hence they wouldn't blow you nasty fuckers. How you judge is who you actually are, so maybe you pieces of shit should take a look in the mirror. Strippers aren't whores, they just know how to get their money quick; that is, they take advantage of you douche bags that come in to see them! It takes a bit of intelligence to understand this, and I apologize if you guys don't.
Re: The VIP Lady - that's probably the funniest post I've ever read. Felt like letting it out today huh? Truth is...ALL strippers are the same...they all have sex for money given the right price...and they all have done something sexual to get to where they are. It's no shock. So to use the words "stripper" and "whore" in the same sentence is kinda redundant. lol. Alright...I know that was mean...but once people realize that they need not have such high expectations of strippers...their strip club experience will be 1000x better.
So...let me get this straight...only the white strippers who like black guys are fu-ed up in th e head? The rest of them are "normal"? lol. If you believe that, I can understand how you got ripped off so easily. lol. Guys who think like you, are an absolute target for money hungry strippers. I'm sure it's not the first time you've spent money on a stripper who likes black guys...and I'm sure it won't be the last. ;) Relax...you're reading too deep into stripper's lives. Just enjoy what they're there for. You'll be less stressed about it. : )
Here's a deluxe phoney! If you spend a buck on her, you've spent too much. She used to dance as Carmen at Sports then quit after her dancer friend ripped her a new rear end. She also recently fucked up her boobs by getting some small implants since Sports. She used to screw some black guy who came in to see her, but even he got sick of her shit. What's with these white dancers who go after black customers? She's fucked up in the head!
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