Easy answer then:
From my experiences, great vips from Ayla , Catalina (I guess she likes me, or my tips!!), Dani (real pro, ), Victoria (wild), Lilly (wilder), Sidney (awesome if you can catch her in the mood), Hannah. So-so - Jasmine (bored) and Chantelle (boring, didn't want to take her clothes off for the first 10), Venus (I guess bath day was the next one). bad: Akosha, although she has a great body. Nighttime experiences are too many to list, some good, a lot of really aggressive upselling that I didn't get in the daytime. But what do I know as a newbie? The girls are being watched by management really closely, so don't expect real mileage, go to Detroit.
The best bet is to tell management when a negative experience happens so they can deal with her immediately and depending on what she does get our money back. On here it's all hearsay, they can't tell if a post is from an x-employee, a girl's x-bf, a disgruntled dancer who wants her in trouble, or a customer with a legitimate gripe. Just like anything on the internet take what you read here with a grain of salt and make your own judgements. I've always had fun with only a few experiences over the years that killed my fun but the net always seems to go after 1 specific girl for a month or so & just trash her until the poster moves on to the next victim.
When management is deleting the posts, they are probably doing this to protect the "image" of the club.
The other question is: Are they doing anything with the deleted comments to improve the business? After all, they can't get feedback from someone who leaves because of a bad time, doesn't post and doesn't come back.
I say go ahead and post the negative and let management delete them.
This is a forum to share information about good experiences with girls and bad! Why would customers want to see a dancer who rips customers, gives the club a bad name, If you purchased a vip and she stood their and just looked at you, would you want to allow others the same, We share this for the better good of the club Why would managment not want feedback, and delete it , The better answer is deal with the dancer ,
Yeah, a 30 year newbie. Thanks for the condescension. Your problem is that you seem to expect that every dancer is going to break the law to please you. And the crap you are posting about girls is clear - you treated the girls like dirt, expecting you're in a brothel, and will trash them under tons of different aliases to get your revenge.
Lilly is great, so is Catalina, s is Ayla. Most of the day shifters are nice girls, drop some money on them, treat them well and you will get special treatment.
so thanks to whoever is sticking up for me to the rude comments posted about me...and the kid rock brewer i know that u r def not my sons father posting that...he doesnt even have a truck..i have a truck that is completely payed for....good job trying to be another asshole who doesnt know me and keeps talking shit...!dont u ppl have anything better to do than bash our girls...if u dont like us so much..dont bother coming...and u probably are jealous because u broke ass bastards...with no fucking life...grow up!
BB, you ask "What the hell could you complain about?"
OMG, are you a newbie or what ??????
Where should be start? Let's see.....no extras a la Detroit. All promise and no deliver. Too much time in the dressing room. Cut short the time on dances. Asking for tips when the dances are bad. Shall I go on.....?
Regarding the trashing of these girls, I've had great laps from all three, and all three are fun to hang out with watching the dancers. I don't why some of you have ahd the history with these girls, but Catalina has always given me very sexy VIPS, as has Ayla. No cheating on time, nothing bad here. Great bodies, pretty girls making out with you on your lap. What the hell could you complain about?
Forget about Tracy. She is hardly ever there, no schedule, and when she is there is a line of regulars waiting. Chances of finding out if she is any good in the VIP are slim to to never. Pick one of the other beauties for your fun.
excuse me first of all pajama pants.....u obviously dont know her...her sons father has a better job than u....he is the head brew master at a brewery and makes beer for kid rock...so unless u know what u r talking about shut ur mouth!
Agreed. Same old song and dance. Girls hide in back and hate their jobs, blah blah blah. I don't even know why they even show up. They've been trained to be so mechanical and so unfriendly it's no longer a good time. Poor customer service. Unfortunately, I also say this Vu will never close down, just look at that crap hole Cheetahs. With all their problems they're still in business. However, the Vu is headed down that Cheetas path if they continue with it's current policies.
was in wed nite and this place sucks there were more dancers than customers and very few dancers tom was in a bad mood the dj sucked and the dancers stayed in the back room while free tities and red light i'll tell you again this place is going to close down soon so girls you might want to find another place to work
this club does things differently, the girls only have to schedule themselves one day each week and they can change their days week to week and sign up as late as the day they show up or a week or so before. It makes things confusing for us but the girls love it and if a particular girl caught your eye just ask her when she'll be in. Most girls still show up 2-4 days a week.
come on guys, dont you just love it when i wear my bra three sizes too small to make my boobs look bigger. or when i walk, i half fall over because i cant stand up stright when i have such larger tits. you mean you dont want to talk? but i carry on a good conversation, now im gonna cry. poor me. what do you want from me?
Yes Catalina is a lame dancer why do ya think guys do not come to the tip rail , I had a very bad dance from her in the VIP got shorted just like the other guys, Cost couple hundred lesson but she lost in the long run, She gets dressed and wants to sit and talk, If I wanted to talk I would go see a therapist my insurance would pay for that,
Catalina has that same line she uses everytime...and she has no idea what's a good LD. Sorry you had to experience her BS and basically ripping you off. . Back in the day you could see a girl give a dance before you spent your money. There are rarely new dancers here. Most are veterans working 5 years or more. The dancers seem more jaded because of this. Asking for a dance and then disappearing into the dressing room never to be seen again. All the young hot girls have moved on. What's left are single moms and bitter old dancers who cant or wont move on in life. Sad, because this club used to be the bomb....
there is a hot asian girl, who is really freindly and gives a great ld not sure about the vip, but will let you know the next day I am there, as far as catalina yea I think thats the same one she likes to brag but can not deliver, The other previous post is 100% correct braggers never come close to what they say, If your good you do not have to stand and brag, there to busy to giving lds-vips
Yes, the Asia girl that works there is Ayla (not sure of the correct spelling.) She used to work nights but now I've seen her on the dayshift. She reminds me of a younger version of Julie Chen, the host of Big Brother and the CBS Morning News. Don't know anything about here. She has never once spoken to me or asked me for a dance. She seems to walk around with her nose in the air like shes better than everyone else. So good luck to you my friend, if that's what you want.
"and she came to me saying she was the best ha!!!!!!!!"
A piece of advice from a veteran of a thousand lap dances, Those dancers that claim they're "the best in the club", almost always give an awful piece of shit dance. Don't know why that it, but that's typically the case. I've never had a good dance from a girl who tells me how good she is.
I have never complained about the dancers or service ever, But this time it has to be said, I received the worst vip ever I have had bad ld @ vip in the past but omg this was pathetic shorted time, her name was catalina and had worked there for 9 years, I have had newbies do better, I probably will never go back after a dozen years and she came to me saying she was the best ha!!!!!!!! hope you become a better nurse
The word of the day is "fired". What exactly does that mean? It's kind of a relative term. Tom must have a soft heart. He "fires" girls but they all come back, (eventually). Well, almost. I know of two cases, one where the girl went over his head to corporate to bitch and the other is the infamous lawsuit. Those girls never came back. Otherwise, they all come back. Drugs, alcohol, arrests, cheating, threats of physical violence. In the end, all is forgiven.
Day time is just not as much fun as it used to be. With the absence of several hot ladies, mainly a cute petite blonde, the selection is ok but not to my liking. I guess life will go on especially if some hot new dancers show up.
I left for grad school 6 years ago. Came back and it's all the same girls. like I had never left. economy must be keeping newer girls from coming in or older ones from leaving. Sassy and danni have been here for years...must be like 15 years.
I thought I was on the in with venus now I must be on the outs I do not know of any special move, she practices .But she still is great, But I guess I will have to check out a new lady, diamond danni somebody help
Same old rehashed dancers jumping from club to club. Sure Heidi is back, sure vanessa is back. They will go where the money is, whether it's here, kzoo, omars. They really don't get fired...or fired for long. They are independant contractors. Rememeber, the clubs just want girls, and more girls they have the more money they can squeeze out of them. They really need to fire danielle. Women never make good managers.
I tried posting earlier, but my comment did show up. Let me state again that I was in Sunday night and received two dances with Cherish. What a body. I loved those fishnet stockings and the way she touched herself. She is so sweet, friendly, personable. I also thought Vixen and Candi were hot, but I didn't find Candi approachable. I apologize for being negative, but has anyone had any experiences with Candi? Maybe she was just having a bad night. I tried to tip her on stage and she ignored me. She then went back to the couch and just sat there. I would loooove to get a dance or VP with her, but not if she isn't going to be like that. Let me know! Thanks.
And a wonderful surprise tonight, as I was leaving Vanessa (formerly O's, formerly lansing vu) was on her way in. I turned back around and hung out till I got a dance. It seems she was finally allowed back and plans on making this her regular club again.
i was there too on fri night and saw her.she seems to disappear and then return as if nothing happen. i think she one of the people that post on here just to see if anyone has missed her. lets see, she went to kzoo untill she got fired probably the same at omars. she cant get along with the other girls.
Heidi was at the Vu tonight when I left around 11pm and working till close, I had the oppurtunity to get a quick dance before taking off. Apparently the posts regarding her not working there anymore are just the rambling lies of a sad and obsessed little man.
Who gives a fuck you say?? Deja vu and Tom give a fuck. Heard Tom got all frustrated and called Omars to see who went over there wed night. Well, treat your girls better and maybe they'll stay. Otherwise vu managers, Tom, Justin, and danielle, mind your own business. Sincerely, JR (who's got the last laugh now.!)
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