Owner, manager, here's some advice for you from a customer with over 30 yrs experience at strip clubbing. I'm sure I will get blasted on that remark. These are good points. If I ran this club the following practices would not be allowed. $14 to get settled in here on weekends. $10 admission and $4 for the drink is too high for this place. Sorry, but this place can't be compared to Paradise Found or lookers at the present time. You have dancers that don't take their bottom top off on stage and most don't do the dance nude for $20. On top of that the time is about 3 minutes.
havent been here in a bit....I think they have a great location.
on the outskirts of town in a quiet suburb, its a breath of fresh air from the sort of urban downtown bullshit stripclubs.
one of the problems is I think is it looks like a divebar.
theres no cool factor to it like paradise found.
I hear they hanged their lame VIP area. is this true? I always hated that open area seat thing where you had your legs bump up against some guy getting a lap dance next to you.
anyways its all about the dancers hope they have some nice ones will check the place out soon
The deleted comments appear to have been mostly just obscene insults directed at the staff and dancers. I can't blame them for getting comments deleted. The comments that actually say something about how this club is going down the tubes are still here.
Prediction: you are probably right. I don't know what it would take to get the liquor license back but its probably a nightmare, so if they don't straighten up their act as a juice bar this could be the bitter end.
This was always the club that said "if you pay a cover charge, the joke's on you" Now, it's a $10 cover? Sorry, Diamond Dolls. This is Syracuse. A proven club like Lookers might get our $10 for a cover on occasion, but not a new nude club. DD's always seemed like a great place with no cover, beer, great food, and topless women. Now, you're competing with established nude clubs? In Mattydale? $10 is much better spent at Paradise Found. Thanks for ruining the last great adult club in the area, asswipe.
Anyone who deletes comments is a sad excuse for an American. America is about free speech. It is obvious that either management or the employees are deleting comments. When I read comments are deleted, I tell everyone to avoid the club. Mass e-mail went out tonight.
Do your math over. You don't get 4 minutes for $20 here. I was told by more than one dancer you get 3 minutes to 31/2 minutes for that $20 dance. It should be 4 minutes. Some clubs like valarkie, (spelled wrong I think) gives 3 minutes which is a rip off also.
Wish I could say I knew of anything resembling a good club in this town anymore. Fact is, "It's the economy, stupid", is the reason. The middle class have become the working poor, and people with disposable income spend it elsewhere. Some places it's even worse than this. You need to go to a bigger city or the sunbelt for certain things...
Good point. OK; $14 just to get started. Another point: if $20 is buying me 4 minutes at 5 dollars a minute for a VIP, shouldn't $100 be buying me at least 20 minutes?
Hey, I'm willing to shell out good money for a square deal, but they shouldn't assume I'm drunk enough, or horny enough, or just plain stupid enough to accept diminishing returns like that. And don't tell me the dances are better in the Champagne Room..not in this town. Is there Anyplace in Syracuse where they don't pull this kind of nonsense?
I sometimes wonder about the deleted comments on this board. Who deletes them? And why? Well, I aint no kinda genius, but i reckon its cuz they're negative type sorta comments. If you're sick of your comments being deleted, here's some advice. Don't actually post a comment. Click on "reply to comment" on someone elses shit, and write whatever you want. Evidently big brother can't delete it, or you wouldn't be reading this. Freedom of speech, bitch!!
Lets not forget after the 10 dollar cover charge you have to get a soda pop for 4 dollars total 14 dollars. Way to much for a club trying to make it. Most dancers won't do the dance nude for 20 unless you pay 100 for the 15 min room. What a poor way to manage a club that's trying to make it. Those two things would change if I ran this joint. wtf are these people thinking?
Uh.. Raven, or angie the felon or whatever your ugly fat ass is called. Nice try. Dudes who go to strip clubs do not put little smiley faces after their posts. Managers trying desperately to keep a dying business afloat do. Sorry "Dan" or vicky or whoever.
The Alpine is open...I was there last night.
Well, I've always enjoyed the meals At DD too, but now that they have a $10 cover charge, how was the rest of your experience? Were there enough girls, and were they on stage or just sitting enough checking their cellphones in the smoking room?
Is diamond dolls really closed for good? I never see any cars in the parkimg lot when I drive by, even at night. The sign in front always seems to be on, but maybe they just forgot to shut it off before they closed down. Anyone know what happened?
Judging by the quality of the girl (because I believe there is only one dancer working there lately), I would rather see less pussy at diamond dolls. I think it would be hotter to watch a windstorm in a walmart deli. Is the water they serve now meant to cleanse that scummy vagina between services? They have a venue that any street level pimp would envy. How is it possible to fuck that up? Men would rather meet a girl in a dark alley than go to diamond dolls? It doesn't take an education past fifth grade to successfully offer women for sale at an astronomical profit and they can only draw flies? Are they retarded?
I agree. I was at the alpine yesterday standing by the coat rack a few feet away from the speaker and the music was hurting my ears and I'm a 58 yr old. If it's too loud for an old guys ears, it's too loud.
Mongo, seriously: the hearing loss is cumulative. Ask (or yell into the ear of) any old rock musician. By the time you realize you need a hearing aid, the damage is irreversible. Just something to consider when choosing a club.
Tex: you're right. Used to be a great club. Happy crowds, $10 VIP dances, girls would circulate and do table dances. What happened? Some people point to the economy, new taxes...things "beyond our control". I say, if things change, management needs to react to that, and not act like its still 2007 and everybody can throw away money.
I know what you mean about the Alpine being too loud, but Diamond Dolls is way too quiet. If I wanted a woman who is no spring chicken to grind her sloppy used up crotch on me to the sound of crickets, i'd ask my ex wife to go camping with me. I'll take Lookers over this place any day. How could Diamond Dolls go from being the best club around three years ago, to being the worst? Night and day, it was a lively fun atmosphere. Now it's just depressing. I'm not sure where the old crew went, but if they were smart, they would get together to open their own club and bring some much needed life back to the Syracuse club scene.
I agree. Maybe they could require a 2 drink minimum instead of a cover charge, so at least you can feel you're getting something for your money. If I want to spend ten bucks to sit in some dispirited club where there is nobody on stage I can go to Lookers, where the girls tend to be somewhat better looking.
Mongo, I'd go to the Alpine if that idiot DJ would turn down the volume. PF serves beer now; its worth a few extra bucks on the cover charge to be able to chat up the dancer before I get a VIP, or just to talk, without getting my eardrums blown out.
Yeah, it does seem like an odd business move. Paradise went from nude to topless and I think Bada Bing did too--or maybe the other direction. Doesn't matter with that boring joint.
Hope DD doesn't start a cover charge now. Even so, I'm willing to give the new plan a try. If they do things right, it could be a nice alternative to Lookers.
Just stop embarassing yourself and throw in the towel. Its almost painful to watch. Even for me. Hows that "GRAND REOPENING" going? The only money that shithole made was from the bar, and you were going under anyway. Now you're gonna have those nasty vajayjays out in plain sight and guys are gonna drink juice? You must be delusional! Quit while you're behind. HAHAHAHA!!
Well, around 2008- 2010 a guy named Rick was also supposedly the "owner" of the business- just ask any of the old regulars (if there are any left). Rick rather suddenly passed away, and Lin took over management again. People who own small businesses will often make a lot of promises to a manager like this, and it works 99.9% of the time. It'll be interesting to see what actually shakes out.
Well, it finally happened! YaY!!! D. Doggs is suddenly going all nude. Hmmmm... did somebody lose their liquor license? L O to the L!! The over under on them closing is october 5th. The smart money is on the under. Epic fail!!!!!!
I don't disagree with you either on your point, though DD's used to be waaay cheaper than any of the other clubs, plus it didn't have any cover charge. The real problem is that the owner also owns the building, and doesn't want to spend any more money than she absolutely HAS to in order to turn a profit. When that happens, she'll probably just sell the building itself.
"it costs strip club owners A LOT MORE MONEY today"
You're right, the rules changed...but I still stand by my earlier statement. Other upstate clubs raised their vip prices a couple of bucks or not at all. I don't see where doubling the price at DD can possibly make up for the loss of customer base; place is a dead zone every time I've walked in. Repeat: you want more customers, you become more customer friendly.
Cloe is the hottest dancer in Syracuse, as eye candy goes, dead in the VIP, late aftr drinks she get btr but all eye candy, noooooo extras, numbers or anything outside the club, beautiful, and amazing body tho
You're right- none of the clubs in the area are doing all that well, partly because the paradigm has changed, and partly because we live in an economically depressed area. You have to go to a REAL city if you want to find good clubs like this. Try south Florida or the southwestern U.S.
Didn't know they get paid different now. The other guy is right. Other clubs are going down hill. Example Lookers, I like the club, but place is dead all week, then again many strip clubs are, weekends after 200am the crowd comes in. You have a nude club charging $15, Bada Bing gives you around 3 minutes a song with top and bottom on, Valarkie, $20 nude dance for timed 3 minutes, give us a break, can't go 4 minutes? Dancers don' make the big bucks like they used to at many clubs in the area, maybe need to do something for the customers.
A few years ago there was a change in the state law relating to how dancers had to be paid. Before that, they were considered "private contractors", and therefore not subject to the laws regarding "employees". In other words, it costs strip club owners A LOT MORE MONEY today just to offer this entertainment than it did just a few years ago. Look it up.
Personally I stopped getting dances when the price doubled. As I recall they did that around the time the recession hit, AND Carrier left Syracuse. It wouldn't surprise me if management started taking a larger percentage from the dancers too. They're not the only club in Syracuse to be succumbing to their own greed. When business is bad, the logical way to attract customers is to advertise and run special sales. Not to expect the remaining loyal customers to dig deeper into their pockets.
Few years back me and my buddy would come here almost every friday night. Most of the time you could find a young decent looking dancer for a dance. vip room wide open yet felt comfortable getting a dance in there compared to say the alpine. Friday and saturdays always had enough dancers to get the job done. Did the price increase in the dances cause all this to slow down? Did the bar start taking more money from the dancers? This would have to be the reason why hardly any dancers and hardly any customers now. Shame, was not expensive, and a comfortable club to have some fun on occasions.
WELL this place doesnt sound so good anymore from what i just read thats a shame i used to come here alot during sdw . a few yrs back there was an extremely hot asian woman working here her name was diamond anyone know where she may have gonne ????
Haha! Another deleted comment! I can only imagine what gets deleted if whats on there are the "Positive" ones! Eyeball is right. Nahleeya was a stupid, ugly, ghetto pig. We called her Frankenstripper. Lin made yet another brilliant decision when she made her a bartender. That worked out well. NOT! I guess Lin felt a kinship to her cuz they're both hideously butt ugly. O well. someones gotta be.
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