that was a few years ago has nothing to do with the bar has to do with the cop pressure and what is considered to be legal. the use to be good nighttime dancers like jeannie susie lauren peggy are still there and some are still working it real good.
BU did have a lot of contact. I don't know about now because I don't go there any more. Maybe we just have a different idea of what makes "good" contact. If she is rubbing my penis while her tongue is licking my ear, is that a high level of contact? That kind of dance used to happen everytime I was in BU, by many different dancers and many of them are still there.
Heather, Thanks for your posting - I like your positive attitude! I want to stop in to see you too - but I have been too busy to get out in the day when your usually there. Are you there in the evenings some days?
Cathy isn't fired she just chooses to work at a different club right now. If she comes back I'll post. Dances are the same as they have always been. Veronica usually works in the afternoon shifts.To Sambo, he is right setting up private parties and suggesting sexual favors for money is illegal. We do not promote that behavior because it is illegal . But some girls (anywhere and everywhere) do go above and beyond per say.
He didn't say we WERE doing that, he said if that's what you're looking for, too much is ILLEGAL. Every bar has a bad apple, but Bottoms Up isn't a whore house, it's a dancer bar. If you want close, check for the girls on Arlington and/or Crosby, they'll get REAL close, but then again, so will whatever disease they have.
I have watched this long enough. I am a husband to one of the dancers there. For one on the roland thing that is in house issue so get over it. For 2 at night they have alot of nice girls that are pretty and nice bodies. If yo are looking for contact you are screwed cause in state of Ohio tht is illegal and for one i wouldnt want bar to get shut down for 2 i wouldnt want to see girl get nailed for prostitution. In law if you are touched by a girl in sexual manner is what it is.
The best way to attract more customers to a strip club is have the hottest girls or be known for the most contact. Sorry but when my buddies were thinking of a guys night out (after the game or just getting a steak dinner and then hitting the strip club) we went to BU because the girls were as hot as anywhere and the contact was better. Now we don't even consider BU. I used to drop between $100 and $200 a night at least once a month, most months twice. Now, I haven't been to BU in 6 months. Girls + contact = money.
My comments were made in response to all those who have said things are slow here at night. I don't drink a lot so the lack of alcohol has never been a problem for me. I was just pointing out the reasons for the slow nights. As far as being a place to sober up. BU closes before the bars, so that isn't an option. To increase business you have to have a hook. It's up to the people at BU to figure out what they need. Or accecpt the fact that it's a club that only attrtacts crowds in the afternoon.
As for Cathy, I saw her working at the Club on Tallmadge Ave
Although alcohol makes even me look better, there are some bad points. when bottom's up did have their liquor license customers got liquid courage. fights would brake out regularly. now it doesn't take out genius to figure this out, but woman + pms + alcohol = ?
What do you suggest to fix what you think is a problem? I dont drink so it doesn't bother me and I think the girls are fine. Maybe BU offers you a place to sober up and once your drunk I think your thought of prettier will be alot less. So start out somewhere else and stop by BU last I'm sure they will take care of you. I get tired of hearing would you like a drink or dancers say will you buy me a drink. Make your suggestions by all means I think I'm staying at BU
When Jim lost his liquor license he got rid of the pool table upstairs and put in the couches. Back then BU was one of the few places to offer VIP dances. Times have changed. Most of the clubs now have couches and liquor. Some even offer nude VIP dances and liquor. BU no longer has something other places don't. If the girls were better looking than they are at other clubs but they're not. Or if the dances were better than other clubs, again they're not. You might be able to attract customers at night. But if you can drink, get a better dance from a dancer who you find more appealing elsewhere, nights aren't going to get any better. Unless you can offer something new no one else has.
To God: No Luna is not back yet. She's still in California from what I understand. She said Hello to everyone. (She talked to my cousin recently)
Tony didn't make James apologize he did it on his own. We are working on shifts for the girls. It's improving.
I have been trying to get the stage better. I am not there during the day and I know it is a problem then and at nights. I totally agree with you. On my shifts I have tried to improve that. Sometimes when there are equal girls and guys and everyone is being danced for I don't get them up there. Suggestion heard. Working on it. Thanks for the input.
I will apologize about the comment but it was not meant in any bad way and if you took the that way I am sorry. As for you people who think that I am the worst person in the world that is your opinion and keep it to yourself! I have people come in here to see me and I try to make everyone laugh that comes in the door. I am atleast man enough to sign my comments are you?
i'm not so sure that's a great idea. have you ever tried to dance with the kind of heels they wear? why not just makes shifts? pay 5 or 6 girls to be there at certin like from from 11 - 2, 2-5 and so on. make sure they are women that aren't going to just sit at that table. make them go on stage even if there is only 1 of us men in there. we pay our door charge, shouldn't we have a right to see the girls on stage?
If you want to get more girls to the night shift to increase business in a slow period why not make it worthwhile for the girls to stay. Raise the day tip out unless she stays past 5:00 PM. Lower the tip out if she stays 5 hours or more. Every girl that wants to come in before 2:00 PM must stay 5 hours at least once a week. There are ways to increase your after work business.
I don't know what was said by James, but there are several other staff members who I have heard making uncalled for statements. I have seen the bartenders smile at the dancers when they are getting tickets or paying their tip out. As soon are the dancer is out of earshot the bartender has called the dancer a slu* or who**. Like comments have been made about customers too. It doesn't take long for those who overhear these comments to figure that the same thing happens when they leave!
Everyone dislikes or should I say hates him! He is a complete jerk. He is and has always been rude to dancers & customers!! He walks around like he owns the place and is not a happy guy! Has anyone ever seen James smile? You need a new door guy first impressions last a long time and the first person you see is James! Yikes! Does he own the bar now? Dissatisfied customer!! The reason he hates Roland being brought up is because he is jealous he cant be as great of a person!!!
I am making this comment on here because I want you to understand that Roland was my friend too. Just because there was a comment made by one doesn't mean the rest of the staff for myself feels that way. I apologize for the offense in anyway. This is not how we want our club percieved. Thank you and we appreciate your buisness . This will be the only comment I will make.
Why is it that if you come into the club at 200 or 230 there are 25 to 30 dancers, but if you come in after work around 400 there's 10 or less ? Do the guys who don't have to work tip that much better? Or is it something or someone else?
You guys tired of me yet today?The other problem with this Roland thing is that too many of the girls also spred it through the bar, it's not just the person who put it on the sight. I understand you guys are angry you have a right to be. Spreading this anger and drama causes tension and causes people not to come in here.(I'm not just talking about just this incident either stop talking about eachother and things like that also) Think before you speak you are screwing up your own money when you behave like this. All right I'm done I'm tired of talking about it.
I almost forgot. We hired 3 new night girls and other girls have been staying later. Come on in. Also please pray for the people affected by Hurricane Katrina. I was on the news sight today and it destroyed alot and many people lost everything.
Also to the customer and others that said they felt like "thier kind " were not welcome. Please come back in. That is not the case and I will repeat myself. I have spoken to the people involved and have made myself clear on those kind of comments, and behavior.
There's no problem between Winnie and I . OH MY !! WINNIE we better get on it. She and I have been working 7 days a week for over two months and we were both tired . Tony and I have had friends from out of town and we've been hitting the clubs a little hard. I had a long band practice Sunday morning and was still a little groggy from drinking the night before. Sorry. We'll be better this weekend. Thanks for caring.This Damn thing takes foreever to let you post.
Now continuing my comment... here is really where the problem lies. it's was completely unfair that the person who put this comment about roland and james on here didn't think about everyone at bu needs to make money that's why they are here. now when a comment like that is made it obviously makes people mad and offended. well if you read there are customers who don't want to come in for fear of be discriminated against. they wouldn't have even known if it had been kept in house like i asked. exactly fot this reason.i told you i would handle it. this is how we lose customers!!!!
What's wrong with you two. Went in to see you two Sunday and you two seemed to be having problums or something. No outrages jokes, not much laughing and no fun from you two. Whatever the problum is between you two work it out!
not one of the bottom's up staff has a clue. this is not about roland any more it's about a word that disciminates. that word should have never been used the way it was used. when the staff realized that it did offend people for whatever reason the response should have been an apology for the ignorance of the doorman. there has been no attempt from the staff or james for an apology therefore i and i'm sure others have got the understanding that it's ok for james to disciminate against whomever he would like. that is no way to run a business. yes there is times when some black men take that word as a joke but in this situation it was not ment as a joke.
We have suffered tremdous loses at BU in less than a year.Most of us are still mourning 2 men who are greatly missed.Emotions are running high.We all have opinions and jugdments on the club and personnel, but we should be professional .BU has heen there when we all needed the club , for what ever reason.We have pulled together to help our own so many times, be it lose of a loved one, lose of a home, or sickness.Please let the people involved in the current problem work it out themselves.I loved Roland dearly and knew him for 14 years.This is not what he would have wanted.We need to put our energy into making the club strong , not into continuing the drama.
Just for your knowledge, I did not bring Roland into this the person who started did. The only thing I did was turn the air conditioner on when she had turned it off. When I came in it was 78 degrees in the bar, I walked over turn it from HEAT to A/C, it was set on 74 degrees and walked away.
Is my name I sign my comments after everyone, I dont know if you was reading things right this morning but you need to read them again (reply: to wait a minute ) The person that didnt sign their comments ( you knew roland )said "what was said was said out of anger by a child that didnt get his way" I dont know if these two comments are the same person ? But you need to reread what you wrote the first time. Its a shame how simple words can hurt simple minds. and I'm not even going to talk about whos wise here thats pretty obvious. Our kind not welcome? Since there is humans in there that makes you alien right ? Well Alien or not everybody is welcome !!! Good luck and have a great day ....................Bouncer on call
Number 1: I am far from an angered child, neither is James. I am a customer giving my opinion, do we not count? Number 2: Did you really think the phrase he used was a sign of respect? I being a respectable man have lost my temper myself when refered to by that name. Number 3: James was not drunk, he was stupid and pulled a dead man into an arguement trying to get his way. How do I know this? Your not wise if you don't realize that ladies there talk. Now I thank you for making me feel like our kind is not welcome there. Have a wonderful day!
If you didnt know him, didnt hear the comment, how would you know how it was said or the reasoning behind the comment ?. And you sound like a angered child yourself, they are only words(remarks) remember when you was a kid (sticks and stones my break my bones but words will never hurt me). I have been dealing with BU along time and James comments are no worse then a drunk walking in and sitting down next to you , Its all in how you take it...So yes your probably wrong. Lets drop the Whole Roland thing he wouldnt of cared then and probably doesnt now, your worried about defacing the dead? Why not let them rest.............Bouncer on call
i didn't know him but i have herd alot about this man. what i hear about the remark that was said, it was not a sign of respect. yes roland probally did joke like that with his freinds, but what was said i'm to understand was said out of anger by a child that didn't get his way. heather while your standing beside james and protecting him you should also realize that as a customer we shouldn't have to put up with the remarks coming from james. the way that james treats the girls and us customers is uncalled for. maybe i'm wrong but i think james should be told that he is wrong for defacing the dead, instead of patting him on the back.
been going to BU forever. I've never had a bad time there even on the slow days. All the girls are great to hang out with. Haven't been there for a few weeks but will be back soon. just found this site and it's amazing some of the BS people put up here. It's ironic how you can't look past their imperfections and yet these beautiful ladies can look past the bald heads, beer guts and still put a dent in your wallets
Why would you delete a group that from what I heard has been very pleasant. i've not been there yet. But friends of mine have said they love it. I have had the same problem can't get in there.
Anyway. I agree with bouncer on call Roland would have let it roll off his back because he was that kind of man. Everyone is so pissed because this was a riend that said this. Except i wasn't there i didn't hear it so...... Don't fan the flame. let it drop. Sometimes people say stupid things even if they don't really mean it. But like I said i wasn't there and didn't hear it with my own ears.
Who ever wrote this comment :To James didnt know Roland at all, Those words would of rolled of his back like water off a duck , So you thought those words were wrong ? OK then why did you get online and tell thousands of people what was said ? You just insulted Roland a 100 times more, He wouldnt of liked his private issues broadcasted over the internet. HOW DARE YOU !!!! ......................Bouncer on call
I thought setting up a group would give people a better chance to make comments without all the flaming that goes on with this board. I offered Moderator status to James, Tony (and by default, Heather). MSNs intent was not to create controversy, but to allow people to talk about their experience.
I can see now that I was wasting my time trying to help out. People seem to like the flaming and anonymity that this message board provides. If you change you mind later, feel free to use the idea again. In any case, I'll delete the group either tonight or tomorrow since the employees of BU are against it.
Hey Bouncer on call . Too funny. I Love counter(dicks) . That was good. Ha Ha. haven't been on here in days made me laugh. I'll see you guys later. sorry I didn't hang out with you two last night. Tired , stressful day. I know you guys know that but wanted to say sorry anyway. See you there.
There is something about your wording that counter(dicks) your reasoning for going to msn group, because you just left a negitive comment that i had to read too. as far as when you come in and whos working, you think you can believe the information on any web site ???? your better off just stopping by the bar and asking at the door if your favorite is working. good luck and have a great day ............ bouncer on call.
Pathetic? You might want to look in the mirror for that one. The last thing I want to do when I go to a site is read about everyone's problems and issues. Thanks for making me read the paragraph you put together. All I care about is when a girl that's not old, fat, and/or ugly will be working here so I don't waste my time when I come in. Sounds like the MSN group place is the place to go.
Why join? If you are posting on here then you are reading the comments on here to. If you don't provide the readers here with info about the girls, would you be able to do so on the other site? Just because comments on here are negative doesn't make them lies. And the positive comments are not all true. If I want to talk to the girls, I know where they work. Talking about them to other customers on a private web site just seems a bit pathetic.
I tried going to msn groups and searching for Ohiobottomsup but came up with nothing. Can you tell me how to get there? I don't come to this site any more because like you said, it's filled with a bunch of nonesense. Thanks.
Now why are you trying so sell my house? That Is wrong.. I see you found my sign..lol First you steal it then return it MONTHS Later..lol I cannot believe you would put it back in the yard.. Now I am going to get crackheads trying to buy my house. lol. I am going to get you back on this one, , Just wait and see:}
BU is a terrific place to visit. All the girls are friendly, especially, if you understand why they are there and why you are there.
There are many clubs that look better, have more upscale furnishings but those clubs don't have the BU girls. Enjoy it!!
"i'll be back never" is knocking the place down and for your information just because a certian type of girl isn't your type doesn't make them ugly grow up and further more don't for get in some women's eyes your an ugly person
Hey me- yes, i was there, no, there weren't any good-looking girls there except for the barmaid who's father had just passed away & was leaving to attend his funeral. i'm not trying to run the place down!! it was always enjoyable in the past & i was just curious as to why the level of talent was so low that day ( last thursday ) let me know when it improves & i'll drop $$$ on all the lovely ladies. take a deep breath & entertain!!!
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