Thanks MP - you make some good points. Bottom line, I go to CL most of the time because I like it better. Plus there are some great girls there. Plus I can smoke my cigars there. The $50 savings was net, I drink better booze at CL then is available at CE. Someone down the list said silky's is a nice place, maybe when it was new. I found it down and dirty. It is fun though. Is it still smoker friendly? The problem with both CE and Silky's is the couch dances - they are not comfortable. CL has nice little partitions, and Blush booths are even better than CL partitions. Of course Blush is not smoker friendly and is not a nice place to chill either. Cheerleaders still wins.
Be on the lookout for the psycho customer (“Tex” or Psycho Boy). This psycho broke the car window of a bartender who worked at a club because she did not give him all the attention he demanded. This psycho broke the windshield on a car owned by a customer while he was inside a club with dancers in Beaver County. He also stalked a dancer at a grill and bar in Cranberry and was banned from Club Elite for dumping beer on a customer. This psycho can be identified as a guy who is short in stature with glasses, a mustache, frequently wearing a baseball cap, and often drinking Coors Light or Corona. Be sure to ask the psycho customer why he left Arizona if he liked it so much. Will Tina be the next victim of his stalking or vandalism?
wow! I just wanted to post the prices of the rooms (I saw someone post slightly lower prices earlier), not start a raging debate about whether I should get unlimited drinks in a room. I don't expect free drinks. Usually, my drink ends up with the ice melted in it anyway because I am FOCUSING MY ATTENTION ON THE DANCER. These places are called "strip" clubs because "us guys want to see us some naked women."
I know there is alot of talk about CE on here.Been there a few times but I found a club right up the street from CE in the Rocks called Silkys. It is small but a nice place. Really big surprise was it was only 10 bucks to get in and the beer was free. I'm really a rum drinker but the guy there said it was byob and they give the coke free. I thought he was kidding, but he wasn't. It isn't big like CL . I like to take my clients to CL to impress them but Silkys is a nice break when just hanging with friends. I bounce between both clubs. They both have really great dancers. CE is a thing of the past.
Ha ha. Seriously though...one of the most important pieces of information that I try to elicit from a dancer before I decide to business with her is...where she's worked at before. It comes across as a very innocent, ice-breaker question, but, honestly, based on the dancer's response, I can pretty much tell what kind of time I'll be in for.
And when her answer includes time of any significance at Club Erotica, I immediately switch to Strip Club World Security Condition Red: Severe Risk of Manipulative Stripper Attack.
And I can tell you (from experience...something Antonio obviously lacks) that, because the girl only makes $75 on a room at Erotica, you are going to be aggressively hit up for a big tip there...after, before, and maybe even during the room. If the dancer requests a tip at the beginning of the room, I can tell you that you are fucked right from the start...whether you comply or not (I recommend declining). The tactics of Erotica dancers are so diabolically wicked that, if I'm talking to a dancer at another club and she tells me that she worked at Club Erotica, I'll pretty much not do business with her due to that fact alone...
Aren't the rooms at Cheerleaders only a few $ more than the rooms at Erotica? Im confused! Does Blush give any drinks with thier rooms? Antonio, did you make it past the third grade? These are all questions that i need answered! Of course Erotica gives unlimited drinks in the rooms they take $125 of the $200 paid for the room! Since they are ripping the girls off, they might as well offer unlimited drinks for the room. Maybe if the girls get drunk enough they wont realize they are being taken advantage of!
The only one that sounds inexperienced...is you.
I have done over 600 private rooms, and what you are suggesting is stupid, impractical, and of no signifcance whatsoever. And quite frankly it makes me think that you're just some Club Erotica flunkie that's never even done a room before.
Let me know if that explanation wasn't clear enough for you. I'll be glad to insult your fanciful notions even further...
If a customer usually only drinks 1 or 2 drinks during a private room, then why does Cheerleaders feel the need to insult the customer by limiting his or her drinks to virtually nothing? Wouldn't unlimited drinks be an added bonus when trying to sell an already overpriced private room?
Sounds like inexperienced management.
Club Erotica charges $20 at the door. The drinking customer gets unlimited Miller Lite from a keg, and/or cheap liquor. You gotta figure, a fifth of any type of cheap liquor, at the State Store, usually costs $10, or less. You can get over 20 shots/mixed drinks from a fifth of liquor. A keg/half-barrel of beer holds over 15 gallons. If you did the math, you would find that you can get a lot of mixed drinks from a fifth of liquor, and a lot of cups of beer from a keg. Also, Erotica probably gets a quantity discount on their booze purchases. I think Erotica is making a good profit on the $20 door charge. To add, many of their customers are underage. I don't think the under 21 crowd is downing a whole lot of soda pop, while in the club.
I question whether the alcohol there is even truly "unlimited".
Let's say that I just decide to ignore the dancer completely in the room. I tell her, "Hey, honey, just go park yourself in that other couch over there across the room." And then I proceed to ask for drink after drink after drink. I'm fairly certain that wouldn't fly at all there. You might get one more beyond the initial drink, but after that I bet they would tell you to go fuck yourself...
Does the person touting "unlimited alcohol" in ce rooms realize exactly how much time out of that $200 30-minute room would be wasted sending the dancer out for more drinks. that's a stupid waste of valuable time at $6-plus per minute, not to mention the fact that dancers tend to take their sweet time returning to a room whenever they excuse themselves to go to the bathroom, go get a cigarette, go get a drink, etc........................
I am a big fan of alcohol as well. I have done dozens of half-hour rooms at Club Erotica. And despite the fact they apparently have "unlimited alcohol" available when you do a room, I have never had more than the initial drink that they set you up with at the beginning. In fact, it has never even occurred to me to ask for another one. Again, I'm usually preoccupied with getting boobs smooshed in my face at that point.
I agree with Colin Farrell below, this number of free drinks argument is much ado about absolutely nothing. It's a non-issue...
I enjoy both alcohol and women. Alot. of alcohol and alot of women. Lemme tell ya, when I'm alone with a naked woman for an hour, even I can't put down more than 2 drinks. WTF are you idiots arguing about?
"Erotica has free booze - this, in itself, would save me about $50 just on my own drinking."
I wouldn't say it was totally free exactly. You're paying a higher cover charge than most places ($20) that essentially covers part of the cost of that booze. But...I totally agree with you otherwise.
"The Parking at both establishments is BULL SHIT"
Don't use it. I park on the street and walk up at both places. I go to Cheerleaders twice week. $700 a year to park my car at Cheerleaders? I don't think so...
My take on the Erotica / Cheerleaders fued:
1. Cheerleaders is a nicer place, can't be argued - it's just a nicer club.
2. Erotica has free booze - this, in itself, would save me about $50 just on my own drinking.
3. The Parking at both establishments is BULL SHIT
4. Cheerleaders is smoker friendly - this is a big plus. Fuckin' smoking ban.
5. The assholes at cheerleaders don't tip enough while the girl is on stage EXCEPT when the stage girl doesn't take her top off...if she doesn't expose the goods fuck her.
6. More private couches at Cheerleaders, that is a plus for sure.
Some may get their kicks in that way but I can somehow rise above that. Surely she must know that the fruit is rotting on the vine. I don’t think Franco would take her back if she showed him that she could lay a golden egg.
Please stop trying to compare that dump to Cheerleaders! There is no comparison! Erotica is a dump, in a shitty neighborhood! Why do you think they have been trying to sell that shithole for so long? I admit this back, and fourth is quite amusing, but lets be honest.
Again (for the stripclub retards out there), I don't think private rooms are primarily intended as a place to get drunk. I think you are missing the KEY CONCEPT behind the private room.
Did I mention that there's usually a hot naked chick in there with you???
I don't think there are very many people that are willing to go in there, and pay all that money for an inflated room that in some cases isn't even on par with what some of the competing clubs have to offer for less. If I was planning a bachelor party, I would definitely want Cheerleaders to be one of the stops. But, I would not want to send the bachelor upstairs to do an already high priced, one hour room with a two drink allotment. I think anybody, in their right mind, would want to save the room money for Club Erotica, Blush, or the Filly Corral.
Cheerleaders needs to make some changes, and offer something more appealing to the customer.
No club owner in they're right mind is gonna give away unlimited alcohol in the room if the club has a full bar/liquor permit. A club with these things makes part of it's money from liquor sales... not just vip room/lap dance sales. Erotica gives liquor away for free because they have no liquor permit and liquor is not sold.. hence they really lose no money in sales due to this. Anyway, what was I trying to say here? Oh yeah, quit bitching and pony up a few bucks for extra booze if you wanna get drunk... or hang out at Erotica and drink piss warm beer and shitty well liquor. I've found the well liquor causes one nasty hangover. LOL.
Look, if you want to believe that you are a big shot, because you hang around at some rinky dink titty club that is so mismanaged that they are more concerned about making a dollar off a drink, than they are about giving their customers what they pay for, then more power to you.
I am not from Club Erotica. I don't go there very often, any more, And, I am certainly not going argue in favor of the place. I don't own any of these clubs. I don't work at any of these clubs. And, I am certainly not going to waste my time pushing for any of them, unless they pay me. I know better.
If you're quibbling over the price of a couple drinks, then you're too broke to be doing hour rooms in the first place. Stop trying to piss in the tall weeds with the big dogs.
They're both good clubs with good girls. It just depends on what you're looking for. If you're okay with a plain vanilla, no-frills experience of questionable safety, then you'll be fine at Club Erotica. If you want all the bells and whistles (full bar, bottle service, full menu, massage girls, shot girls, feature acts, friendly staff, nicely-appointed comfortable surroundings, etc.), then you'll probably prefer Cheerleaders.
That's true, but if Cheerleaders wants to be an upscale gentlemen's club, then they should not demean their customers by trying to chisel a few extra dollars out of them for drinks in an already overpriced private room. The two drinks that go to the dancer, in a one-hour room, is just another way of selling the customer four drinks, along with the room, but only giving him/her two. I'm not saying that the dancers shouldn't get drinks during the room, but the club offering four, then automatically giving two to the dancer(s) is simply trickery.
To add to that, some dancers don't even want to drink. They are forced to take a non-alcohol, or even a fake drink.
Come on, we're not as dumb as we may seem.
To me, the focus in a room should really be as follows anyway:
On the attractive naked woman: 99%
On the number of free drinks provided: 1%
If you wanna get liquored up, that's what the bar is there for...
If the good booze is that important to you, then you should go to a place with a full bar. I am not going to defend Club Erotica. However, if you don't pay extra for top-shelf liquor at Cheerleaders, you get the same kind of well drink that you get on the floor at Club Erotica.
And, I'm a beer drinker. I agree about the piss-water beer that they serve at CE.
"The club doesn't even have to offer those 4 drinks ..."
Yeah Nadine, the club doesn't have to do anything more for the customer, but the customer can easily choose to spend his/her money somewhere else, and you could just as easily be looking for another place to dance, after Cheerleaders goes under. Customers aren't cattle. We know what's up. And, the sooner Cheerleaders figures that out, the better off they'll be.
Customer Service 101 - Give the customer MORE than what they paid for!
This seems like a good opportunity to bring up another glaringly obvious advantage of Cheerleaders. They have a full bar...available to ALL customers. At Club Erotica, unless I shell out for a half hour, my only option is watered-down draft beer.
If you think about it, if I want a shot of tequila at Cheerleaders, it cost me $6. Whereas I can't get a shot at Club Erotica for less than $200.
And let's be honest, customers that do rooms probably represent less than 5% of total customers. So the majority of Club Erotica's customers are stuck with draft beer.
The drinks cost the club virtually nothing. I am certainly not a fan of Club Erotica, but at least that club has the common decency to give unlimited drinks, along with a room. If a dancer wants a drink or two during a room, that should be courtesy of Cheerleaders. They sure are charging enough for their rooms, and they want to be cheap with the drinks? That's ridiculous! If they are so concerned about treating their dancers well, let 'em buy the drinks for her.
Nadine, ur as sweet as honey (Now that's funny), but so is MY money.
If you want to blitzed during a room, bring your own flask!!
Dear 'Are you serious?'.... the dancer in that room is working hard and deserves a drink or two.. want more drinks? BUY SOME MORE. If you already spent a few hundred up there a few more dollars for libations shouldn't be that big of a deal. The club doesn't even have to offer those 4 drinks, it's a courtesy, and they do in fact come out of someones pocket.
I stopped in right after midnight this morning and there were maybe 10-15 customers. Things are tough all over.
Oh yeah, I was Quoted $436 for a 1 hour room with 4 drinks (2 for me and 2 for the dancer);
$221 for 30 min room with 2 drinks (1 for me and one for the dancer);
I don't do 15 min rooms (might as well just pay per dance) so I didn't get a price.
Also, I want to give a shout out to Nadine. You may love her or hate her, but she speaks her mind whether in person or online (and I don't hate her.)
It's not just CE, Blush threatened to pull their Ads from the Go-Go, also. It seems, neither club wants Cheerleaders to Advertise in the Go-Go. So, they bought-up all the Ad space. That is why there are so many Ads for CE, and Blush, in the Go-Go these days. Blush, and CE have been spending money on Ads in the Go-Go for a long, long time. He doesn't want to lose them.
This happened several months ago. Albert of Blush and Vince of Club Erotica went to Ron Bieneck that publishes the Go-Go and threatened to pull all of their ads...if Ron continued to book ads for Cheerleaders. So Ron decided to not take ads from Cheerleaders, so that he could keep the Blush/Club Erotica business.
I don't think this has really affected Cheerleaders at all, except maybe their advertising of feature entertainers...
There's only one Ad magazine. For a long time, I've had some ideas for a better Ad Mag, but I can't seem to find the time, and the energy to put it all together. If I ever get around to it, this could be my calling.
if CE is doing so well, why were there at least 5 ads in th GO Go for it last month??? Zero for CL, several two page ads for CE. Hm, what does that tell you?????
And most SCs are empty on Sundays and weekend nights (early). It's why a lot of the larger clubs charge a girl no house fee if she is willing to work the early shift (5PM-9PM). GIrls don't even want to bother cause it's almost always slow...
The turbo rabbit 2000? Please, I had that thing a long time ago and the motor died within a month. Piece of junk. LOL! There is no need to buy a $90.00 vibrator when the $10.00 ones do the trick just fine.
"Every time that I have been in here on a week night AND on a Sunday night, the place is half empty."
Which would still be better than Club Erotica which is TOTALLY empty on those nights.
Other than Tuesday (which is Cheerleaders' strongest night), Blush probably actually has the best Sunday and weeknight crowds. On the weekends, Club Erotica probably has the best crowds, but they don't start rolling in until 11pm or midnight (but Club Erotica does not close until 3am or 4am).
None of three clubs is hurting for customers (or dancers), with exception of Club Erotica during the week.
You people are so conceited about this place and you have your noses so far up the owners rear that I would swear that you ALL work here. Look Things have been slow everywhere lately. G-e-t r-e-a-l! Every time that I have been in here on a week night AND on a Sunday night, the place is half empty. Yeah, that's right empty. The back bar is closed and there is only one dancer, dancing on the main stage in the middle of the front bar. YAWN! Normally, the only time that this place gets busy on a weeknight is when they have that lap dance special on Tuesday. When the BOGO ends at midnight, the place empties out. DUH! And forget about the early shift, there is hardly anybody there. It's a waste of time!
Antonio... your obviously not winning the argument here... Erotica IS a dump. I said it even when I worked there. If they are doing so damn good over there then why are you trying to sell us your opinion so much? LOL. And as far as the club having no shortage of girls goes, every club in the area has an over abundant amount of girls, not just CE.
The management at club erotica must be doing something right cuz there sure is no shortage of dancers. Girls make money at Club Erotica. They don't got to do their thing on stage and hope somebody pitches a spit ball at them. at cheerleaders most of what gets thrown never makes it to the dancer anyway. good luck with that. At club Erotica when the girls go up on stage they come down with nice chunk of cash. and when they are not on stage they are upstairs making money. The popular girls don't have time to sit around in the back.
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