That and their trying to emulate the whole BMD look. Fake ass, fake tits, chunky thighs all with that surgically sculpted six pack. Oh and throw in some facial surgery too so you look like a freak.
No self control plus tons of thirsty bitches liking fat ugly cunts on social media so they think they have to out zero effort in.
This days the youngest are getting fat very quickly they even have to go for lipo and make their butt bigger man !
True, especially if they party and live hard....it ages them in a hurry.
Who the latest semi hot blond-ish real or in a bottle dancers, here now? Or any new ones in 20 or 30s, and not 40 .. worth a spin in the vip? Who pleasant and will always provide top service and no attitude ever? Names? Days or nights? Weekends..?
Great. And those gals are few and far between and the club decides on a case by case basis but you and I both know the majority of 50 plus dancers we've come across are more than likely the out of shape kind. And the 50 plus number is further reduced by the fact most women past that point are not facially attractive anymore.
There are some dancers in their 50s who could out the 20 somethings to shame because they take care of themselves.
NOT! Leiloni not even close ..
Guys go to stripclubs expecting attractive, fit dancers. If the dancer doesn't fit that mold than the club is within their right to restrict access to the club or functions of the club. No one wants to see a chunky 55 year old stripper so taking away stage shows and charging a no-stage fee is one way to encourage a dancer to go elsewhere as long as you give the dancer the opportunity to go back to doing stage shows if they get in shape and you don't restrict the fat tax to older dancers. A number of young, fat dancers that used to work next door are now at Mints.
The reality is women (all) have a limited shelf life for attractiveness and the majority are invisible by their early 30's and a few hang on a little longer. It makes sense for the club to move on the older out of shape dancers on and force the younger dancers to get in shape.
Is Body shaming and descrimination of age is legal ?
Few and far between it seems. Older gals nextdoor who carry a little more weight than the younger chicks are being told no more stage shows which translates into a higher shift fee. So I would expect the same thing to be happening here as well. No ones going to pay an 80 or 100 shift fee for a weekday day shift.
, any older woman still working here during the day ,
Whatever dude. You obviously never spent much time with her cause that Int her and anyone who believes that it is never saw her up close.
All natural fugly...
Is there an attractive brunette named Zara and a tall hot blonde named Diana working at this place? They both used to be at Cafe Atlantis in Toronto. Rumor has it they work here now. Can anyone confirm this? Thanks.
Those pictures are Leiloni. She is all natural.
You guys are so gullible. Her ass is definately not natural.
That is not Leilani
If that truly is her then it's before. But I doubt it's her as I always thought Leilani's ass was natural. Her boobs were fake but the ass I thought natural
Looks like the typical asian girl with no ass based on those pics.
Somebody has to be a real asshole to post a link here. That would be pretty low.If she is gone from the biz then let it be. Her private life is just that...private.
What good is an ass on an ugly chink? Plenty of good looking gals in here with nice booties to match. You fuckers need to buy some glasses.
Wow. Super hot. How do you get in the batting order with her? Whenever I am in she is always busy. Wonder if it's worth it in the VIP.
before she got her ass done or after?
Sorry but she ugly as fuck, why are there ppl asking about her
Sorry but I don't have to prove anything to you. Believe it or not. Bye !
Unless you have an Instagram account link with proof of her wild side your full of shit
Don't be so naive. She played the innocent act very well but was far from being the sweet innocent girl she wanted you to believe.
Boy did she ever pull the blinds over your eyes.
Maybe he means new new ?
Did you read what you said? She was new last night but you saw her last week? Which is it?
Short black hair european girl she was new to the club last night . Seen her last week too .
Update your passport American guys , it's about time to have some fun and the exchange is good for you now !
You would think the Rudan clan would open a club across the river and run the pornstars through there. Probably enough guys would go over if they knew the pornstar was going to dance. Plus capture any of the guys who can't come over here who want to.
Got to agree
So same scam, no show via no work permit just pics for $25 a pop right lol? PASS ``
She is hott though of course, but no show otherwise.. why bother?
Pornstar show tonight boys...
Brunette, natural c, in college, tasteful tats. No OTC. But fun to chat, even more fun in VIP. Imma come back for her for sure!!
Yep. Paraplegic. Exactly. You're as lame as your homo defender buddy.
While I find it hard to belive that Ginger moonlights in NF... but if it's true.. OMG! You goofs were arguing over her?!? Sad.
You two are trolling each other. Have you realized that yet? You both remind me of the petty argument between the white Knight v. McDonald's kid a few month back. Give it up fellas...
Holy fuck you sound like the world's most ignorant cunt! He's describing her in hopes someone will A) know her name (he forgot) and B) can maybe find out her schedule. Understand? Why does he want to know this? He doesn't live nearby therefore he can't stop by all the time looking for her! As for your rant about rent etc... what the fuck does that have to do with his questions? Nothing. Not a fucking thing. If you can't help him then just shut up! No need for you to make a fool of yourself. If you're that angry with guys asking questions fitting the purpose of this forum then maybe you're on the wrong forum! Go be a trolling twat somewhere else!!!
If he's lame, then you must be paraplegic.
What question exactly are you responding to then smart-ass? Pass on the oh henry... I'm actually hungry for a worthy response from you. You're lame. Who's next?
Because there are people that literally have nothing better to do with their spare time than argue. If someone doesn't have a response to the question, why the hell even say anything? Why the hell are they even on these forums? Go eat an O Henry, no one likes you when you're hungry.
Why don't you gtfo! Haven't heard you drop a name of this hoe in this thread? How are your replies any different then the peanut gallery here..
Guess you're reply counts as 0 then. No value! Why don't you give him your name?? you seem intent on defending the OP at every turn.
If you don't have an answer that is relevant to the question gtfo? The guy didn't say he (or she) cared if she knew him or not. If you have a favourite dancer, do you not go back and see them? I guess these are the types of answers you'd expect in a forum like this. People getting worked up about nothing. Could have said 0 and your answer would have been as helpful.
A name? Who gives AF. You know what she looks like, which implies you'll be able to pick her out the crowd next time. Isn't that enough? What good is a name? You think they'll remember yours? You think it'll give you some type of advantage next time? FFS... get your head out of the clouds dreamer... you're name is "rent" to her...
Don't dream it's only a stage name tho !
Thanks for the defense. Yeah, I don't live in town and I definitely spoke to her/ had a few dances. I just found her far more memorable than the others and was hoping to see her again at some point.
He doesn't know her name or her schedule that's why he's asking! For fuck sakes not everyone lives close by, did that ever occur to you? Not everyone can just stop by repeatedly trying to find her. Clearly he's hoping someone will recognize her, know her name, and post when she's there. Is it really that hard to figure out? After all this is a board people can post reviews and ask questions on so what the fuck is it to you if the other guys wants to ask question?!?
Talk to her again if you already have introduced yourself then don't ask on a post . Wtf ?
You're post makes no sense. He clearly had a conversation with her but forgot her name and described her hoping someone would know her name. What the fuck does that have to do with not having balls?
Plenty of dancers like her so ask her yourself . Get a set of balls ! Lol
She's about 5'7
Was in the club this past Saturday (May 11) and met this gorgeous blonde (hair just past her shoulders, straight) stripper with huge tits (not really thick, but had a nice ass). She was wearing a schoolgirl outfit. She claims she has recently started at the club, but I can't for the life of me remember what her stage name was. I'd love to watch her again at some point, but I'm not sure when she typically dances. I think her name started with an "S".
Any new dancers mid afternoons that are good fun in VIP?
A lot of recent talk about her. Not familiar but what is she like in VIP?
I only saw her the one Sunday back late Feb. or early March. Haven't seen her since.
Any Cuban Rosa sightings? Someone said a couple weeks ago she was there on her own. Is she regular now summer is here? Thanks
Thanks for the Diana update. I tried replying to the thread but it wasn't working. Anyway have fun and please do share any information that comes your way!
Happy Mothers Day Bitches!!!
I'll see if I can slip that in... among other things. Ha.
Hi there, it would be nice to know if she will come back to CA, but it wouldn't be good for me to have you say hello for me as it might be a bit overboard/stalkerish. Have fun with her, but it wouldn't hurt to find out if she plans on going back to CA anytime. Thanks again.
Will do! Shall I send her your regards? Like tell her: so and so from CA hopes you come back?
Hi there, I don't know her that well. I don't have her number or anything, I'm just a happy customer. If you can hook up with her and have fun, by all means enjoy. Hopefully she will come back to the GTA soon as it's a bit too far for me to go to Niagara.
BTW. . You seem to know her.. should I bother contacting her or just delete/block the number? Thanks
Can't say for sure really. She just mentioned she be around town for a bit..but I really don't know what that means... and that's when we exchanged numbers to connect again.
Thanks. That sounds like her. Everyone abbreviates things nowadays! Cafe Atlantis is usually just called CA. How often does she work at the Sundowner? Days, nights? Thanks.
Think so. Come to think of it yes... she did mention something about CA. At the time.. I guessed it was like California... but duh... I just connected the dots that it meant Cafe Atlantis
That might be her. She isn't muscular like a bodybuilder, but really tall (5'11) with necl length blonde hair and fit with a few tattoos. She used to work at Cafe Atlantis. Maybe that's her.
What's her instagram ??
Think this Diana chick was there yesterday. Minus all the gladiator muscles.. you're kinda right.. we spent a few hours talking, drinking and lapdancing. Caught her at the shift change. Offered to drop her off wherever she needed to be at the time and exchanged numbers and parted ways..
She's still reasonably cute and does go the extra mile. Decent personality as well. Or you could try your luck with one of the stuck up cunts.
Flat mom ass (lmao).. saggy tits, over 30. Wow guys... what's not to like about her...?!?
At that perfect age then to get her tits done. Always look more natural when you start with a little sag. Needs to work on her ass too. Squat workouts.
More like early 30 and saggy boobs .
Early 20's something blonde, average height, big boobs, flat mom ass.
Can you describe Melanie?
Unless it's super dead in there I wouldn't even waste your time trying for extra's. Too many dancers and guys walk by the stalls in the VIP and take a peek.
Beyond the sure things Versace/Melanie, is there any other real fun options here during the day or is it still a head next door situation for that? Hope to visit in next couple weeks.
Sure. Sure. Perfect side job eh? I guess it pays for the blow habit. Nothing like having a 9 to 5 and then swinging by the Downer to suck some dick on the way home.
You really have a mouth trucker to say that ! It's a perfect side job too !
They're pretty much all party girls at one point or another. A few are smart ones save up and get out of stripping by their mid 20's. The rest hang on by a thread doing more and more in the VIP to try and extend the party shit until they're used up crap by their 30's.
LMAO. oh yes she was. Her instagram says other wise.
Leilani was never a party girl
Given her age she probably won't.But it's hard for these party girls to just walk away.They usually make at least 1 or 2 come backs before finally stop.
The blonde Amazon Elsa is pretty fun too.
She does 3 for 50 as well. I just like spending a little more for a little more mileage
3 for $50 isn't all that uncommon when things are slow. Only better deal you're going to get for dances from decent dancers is the 2 for 1 deal at Pure Gold on Wednesdays. You could of course go try your luck at Mints. I would imagine there's a crackhead or two there that'll give you a better deal. Maybe that meth head Devon is there.
What kind a deal is that ? Lol
She will not be coming back. But if you like Leilani then you will prabably like her friend Kira. She has big boobs too and is very nice to talk too. She also gives a HOTTT dance. Ask her for the 6 songs for $100 deal
Any news of Leiloni making a come back ? She was amazing !
Hi guys it's me, ?KIRA?. Just wanted to clarify... I still work at the downer, but I don't have a set schedule. I ALSO work at seductions. You are welcome to call either club before you come, if you would like to know if I am there that day. My next shift will be Thursday May 9th, at seductions 1-6. See you soon ? xxx
Zara is 5'5 or so with neck length brown or black hair, tight figure with man mades. She's Lebanese. Diana is hard to miss. 5'11 blonde with neck length blonde hair and man mades. Looks like "Sky" from the 1990s American Gladiators. Both were awesome at Cafe Atlantis but disappeared. Usually when they leave the GTA, they reappear in Niagara.
It is very unlikely they will use the same names. Can u help us out and describe these two?
Any ex Cafe Atlantis girls work here like Zara or Diana?
Sucks for any guy who values his privacy regardless of marriage.
Yes it sucks for married men ! Lol
It sucks for starters. Some guys value privacy over convenience.
What's wrong with take in and no out !
Does Nicole do take out?
Who cares! Those tits are made for titty fucking! And, that's all I'm thinking of.
That tattoo she has across her tits is just plain nasty
Where does Rosa dance niw
I believe Cheyenne and Kira work at seductions.
Dont kick out the door all your girls during the day ! Try to be nice to them . All the best ones are gone !
Long dark here. Italian or portugese maybe. Massive beautiful tits. Well big at least. Looked early 40s or late 30s. Bum average size.
Kira is still here. In fact she was here last Sunday. If she's not here try next door. She signs on over at Seds if she's going to be late since the fee's are lower next door (the dancers get a deal here if they sign on before noon). Also Cheyanne is next door as well (permanently) - look for her on Saturday days.
Kinda surprised that Rosa and Ruby didn't try next door. Age wise both would fit in since it's geared more towards the late 20's and up dancers. At least for the day shift. No clue who Myra is. Or Alexa for that matter.
Daytime sucks since they got rid of Cheyenne and Kira. Also, the Cubans, Rosa and Ruby left for another club. If Alexa and Myra leave they should close the place till 6:00. Its really gone down hill the last 6 months
Those tits are beautiful I just danced with her this afternoon she didn't quit. Ass is also beautiful and nipples are amazing to suck. A lot of fun with her go and enjoy
No, she quit
is she there most days still? how are her tits are they at least D's and still nice and firm?
I havent seen her for years....
Go to Seductions it's busier day time . Downer only busy late at night
It's so dead that they started doing 2-3 break songs between stage shows.
Should just combine Seds and Downer during the week for day shift outside of the tourist season. I know the two cliques of dancers more or less hate each other but splitting the two groups of customers across two empty or close too it, doesn't make a whole lot of sense and ruins the overall experience.
Was in yesterday and it was dead as fuck. Why don't they just open at 6 or 7pm.
What does she look like?
Was wondering the same. Someone must know something out there!
Holy shit eh? She was a year behind me in high school. Did not seem the type to go off the rails like this.
Post on the Mints board she's in jail. Got busted for selling meth last week.
, there was a girl there by the name of Cheryl she usaly worked sat afternoon's as she been aruond i haven't seen her lately,
So is she working here? Schedule? Or at Mints?
Real ass are always better I know ! Lol
Former Got Ass model so her ass is better than most here.
OMG her face is kinda meh but holy those tits. Maybe the best set I've ever seen. Bum seemed a little normal. Older gal but was super busy. Anybody have any Intel on her?
Nice rack on her. Wonder how the booty is.
Post on the Mints board she's dancing here. Anyone know her schedule?
Only insecure losers who want people to like them or guys who want people to think their richer than they are would be dumb enough to spend that much to hang out at a club in the basement of a shithole
For $1000 you can have a local agency girl come to your room and f@%
Yes why not ? Be positive ,stop complaining all the time and have some fun !
Ya like that will work
No. They removed the stairs to the basement from inside the club and moved them over to an addition to the building that's not accessible from the Downer. Basement is now a separate club for high rollers. They kind of folks who will drop a $1K during their visit.
,is that a new vip lounge you can get more private dances
Too funny! "Starting BY you fat dumb ass ! Lol"? More like: "Starting WITH you fat, dumb ass ! Lol". Go back to school! Till then, STFU!!!
Starting by you fat dumb ass ! Lol
Reading comprehension much? He said "SAVING THEIR MONEY FOR VEGAS" and not "SAVING MONEY BY GOING TO VEGAS!!!". Holy fuck some of you idiots need to stop posting!
LMAO!!! Like Niagara Falls even compares to Vegas in terms of entertainment and women. The guys who can afford the Flamingo Lounge are the type who will head to Vegas for the weekend to party. Party in Vegas or party in the basement of some strip club? Honestly fuck off buddy! You seem like the kinda cunt who doesn't know his arse from a hole in the ground. Also it's "dumb ass". Note the fucking 'B'.
No need to go to Vegas when you can go to Niagara falls ! You are saving right there dum ass !
High end doesn't work in Canada. Spearmint Rhino came and dailed miserably. Micky V's failed and now it looks like Entice is or has failed. Guys want to get in, get off and get out. Outside of bachelor or divorce parties (excluding the frat kids that come up from the states) guys aren't going to stick around for hours. The guys who have the money for high end clubs are going the sugar daddy or high end escort route or saving their money for Vegas etc...
To you Ho's dousing yourselves in perfume... you're not fooling anyone. As soon as you bend over we reaching for our gas masks.
If that's their plan.....epic fail.
Supposedly it's a multi-hundred dollar cover charge along with mandatory bottle service. Whether or not that's by group or individual I'm not sure. Plus $ on top for the dancer. I think this is just a way for the Rudan kids to try and get a slice of the dollars guys are spending on takeout. Problem is it doesn't take into account the privacy some guys desire that takeout offers.
Other suggestions names : the bachelors basement ? The VIP rollers ? The Bachelor's lounge ?
I saw Rosa there maybe a month to six weeks ago. But only for the one Sunday. Haven't seen her since.
Have the Cuban girls Rosa and Ruby returned. Daytime totally sucks without them.
Flamingo lounge sounds like it's a queer bar.
Are they trying to copy upper brass/ brass rail concept? If so there's hope they stop cover charges at regular club and upscale club requires the large fee just like the rail. And end of day if it's like that girls will rotate between clubs sniffing out money wherever the Nell bliss lol
I really hope if they are opening a so called upscale club they are not gonna keep that old crappy name of flamingo lounge.
Gee thanks for the news now I know who to see. Ps ever hear of a condom buddy?
It's the downstairs room with a stage.
What is the flamingo lounge?
Is Melanie the blonde with the big ass?
There were hookers in there even when Chris was alive. Fuck some of you guys are so gullible.
The day lap dancing started in there the hookers showed up.
Lmao. Chris was an opportunistic whore who would adapt with the times. Anything for a buck was his motto. He was just content to let someone else take the risk first. You really think he would sit here and run a clean club while every other club out there switched over to extras??? Fuck off! And, it's laughable you think the Flamingo lounge is going to do fuck all too. The same ho's working the FL on the weekend will be doing the Downer the rest of the week. So yeah good luck getting a 'clean' experience there buddy. No offence but you sound like the sort of person who should stay the fuck away and stick to porn. Wrap yourself in the bubble of a house of yours.
We all know Chris has died 3 years ago... He would beat his children if he knew they were allowing open extras to happen on the floor. The Flamingo Lounge will be a good addition for straightening and organizing that place. Good Luck!
I'm not going to risk getting an STD doing extras with a girl who touches 20 different unwashed penises A DAY, ill do a little more work and wait for an exclusive experience, worth spending the extra doe.
Where is Chris? A better question is where the fuck have you been? Chris died 3 years ago! It's his Kids and brother running the show now. And as for keeping it clean, there's no money in a clean club. Girls can work the Sauga clubs and make $$$ or come here and maybe get half of what they can in Sauga. The only thing this place and nextdoor have better than Jon's clubs is the lack of pimps.
I don't know about anyone else but might i remind you of Chlamydia, Genital Herpes, Gonorrhea, HPV, Syphilis, Crabs and HIV/AIDs... Ive seen Lena, Melanie and Versace hands down customers pants and faces buried in crotches, if you want to have a good time in the doctors office by all means keep it up.
A good time is suppose to be enjoyable not rushed where i am treated like a piece of meat with a bit of cash. Money grubbers.
Really I am a man and i would always love a quickie by some whore but where is Chris when you need him. He has other clubs that allows those services WHY ARE YOU TAINTING THE ONLY CLEAN THING LEFT.
SOMEONE CALL THE MANAGER.
Besides Melanie and Versace, they are obviously automatics, are there any other daytime ladies up for a great time in the VIP? No sense making the drive if you can't leave happy.
I think we'll just stick with niggers and coons and you can do your Jersey Shore trailer park shit.
It's used all over but that is where it originated.
Then why the fuck would we use it? Is this New Jersey???
Moolinian is a New York/New Jersey thing. Burnt egg plant.
I like big butts and I cannot lie You other brother can't deny that when a girl walks in with an itty bitty waist And a round thing in your face you get sprung wanna pull up tough 'Cause you notice that butt was stuffed My homeboys tried to warn e But that butt you got makes me so horny. 'Cause I'm long and I'm strong And I'm down to get friction on.
Don't say the N word. Say Moolinyan they don't know what you mean and they won't shoot you.
You actually think there's more demand for those services in Niagara compared to gta? You really are delusional aren't u
So she left an area with 3-4% unemployment to an area with an rate 7% and overall lower income levels??? More like she isn't interested in being a stripper HO.
Supply vs. Demand. That's why.
Yes, there was a gun fired apparently
Good reason to get in there before they start scanning and charging cover.Usually around 8pm.
Yeah I can't see the Rudan kids being that stupid as to keep a database and then just hand it over to the police. Guy's would be absolutely thrilled to wake up to cops banging on their doors asking if they saw who the shooter was.
Then that would have some serious repercussions for the club around data privacy. That scanning is to verify your identity (age) and test to make sure the ID is valid. At no time should it be used as a record of you going to the club or be kept for any other purpose. Great way for the club to get sued and customers getting contacted by the police would no doubt tell their buddies which would kill interest in going to the club.
Idiot I was thinking a patron might be a witness. Duh
I doubt it's true cause she used to work in Mississauga and she stopped working there cause that's all guys wanted. If she did that kind of stuff why come down to Niagara all the way from t.o. to do it when she could do it in t.o.
Why are you assuming it's a customer? Could have been some pimp picking his gal up. The niggers seem to love shooting each other at the Sauga clubs. Could have been a pissed off dancer too for that matter. Ultimately this is just another reason to not bother going at night.
they scan i.d. aren't they gonna hand over info to cops?
On Saturday April 20th 2019 at approximately 2:41am 2 District (Niagara Falls) uniform officers of the Niagara Regional Police responded to the Sundowner Adult Entertainment Club in regards to a shooting.
Investigation revealed that a firearm had been discharged in the parking lot outside.
There were no reported injuries.
Police are looking to identify and speak with any witnesses who were present at the time of this incident.
Anyone with information is encouraged to contact Detective Jason Lee of the 2 District Criminal Investigative Branch at (905) 688-4111 Badge#9496. Information can also be submitted anonymously through Crime Stoppers.
does anyone have any details re the shooting at the Downer?
She hates the young immature kids and crowds.
She should work at night time . Why is she working only on days it's so dead .
She will give it out so you can check with her to see if she is working. Outcalls aren't an option.
So which is it? Are we to believe Alexa the hottest woman in the place, who allegedly gives notoriously low mileage dances, is actually handing out her number for OTC? Or is this board full of it? This is an honest question. Fascinating to me if it's really the first one. Discuss.
Your correct. She can give her number to anyone if you ask or if she wants to and if you arrange to meet away from the club that's between you and her. Yes you are correct. That goes with any girl in the club. The girl can give her number to any guy if she feels comfortable with him.
She will give her number to anyone who asks. It's no secret.
I'm just telling the facts you believe what you want someone asked a question I responded again you don't believe me then ask her yourself sorry not her pimp I have a lot better job than that shit.
A gentleman never tells. So, what are u....a dreamer? Certainly not someone who would rate a phone number.
Who cares , keep your business private please ! Are you her pimp ?
No joke I do have Alex's number and have met her away from the club. She doesn't give her number to many men because she doesn't need to with the money she makes in the club. If you don't want to believe me that's ok. Just telling the facts. If you get to know her and she likes your look you can meet her away from the club. Ask I find out for yourself. Enjoy!!!
No they don't . You wish !
I doubt that very highly
I have Alexa's number and met her on numerous occasions away from the club for fun. She enjoyed every minute amazing for both of us. Not disappointed
Instead of asking us why don't you ask them?
Does daytime Myra Romania milf or alexa offer otc? Thanks
Sorry not bald headed I have a lot of hair on my head. Last time I'll repeat I known her a long time again never over charged me. Provides great dances with me. I also dance with other strippers in the club and I never got overcharged. If you have an issue go get a dance with another stripper or keep track of the dances to avoid any issue. Nothing difficult.