Vegas Cabaret ( Formerly Creme ) Comments

Do not hire a black guy named Duane. He has been fired from several strip clubs for stealing money and trying to rape the girls. He might be going to jail for it.

After reading the article posted for this club. I wanted to check it out for myself. This place is a joke whoever is in charge needs to put his foot up his own ass just for assuming he could handle a club. i give it a month mayb two then hasta la vista.

this club will be closed again b-4 u know it with john h running it.. it looks like shit and the new sigh looks like shit

with all of the ownership changes this place has been a joke for a long time. but it has hit a new low since it re opened last month. this new owner has no idea what he is doing. a fresh coat of paint does nothing for a club when the club itself is run so poorly. i wont be coming back.

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We are fixing the place up. It's just taking a little time

i tried this place out last weekend. its ok new owner is ok to. but i miss tap and that crew. they really treated the girls well and were fun to work for. anyway good luck to the new owners also. bye.

Will you be fixing up the outside of the building and the inside at all? I mean it realy needs it badly .

Tap and crew will not be returning. It is new owvers and the name of the club will be changed also. I will not be called vegas anymore

who owns the club now? Does that mean that tap and his crew will be running this place again or will there be someone else?

The Club is closed for a time yet to be determined. Once it re-opens it should stay open for good. Anyone that knows anything about this club knows the disaster it has been for almost 15 years. The last operators are trying to change that for good. In order to do that it was necessary to close the club until everything is settled and negotiations are completed. Stay tuned, hopefully this club will change for the better and for good very soon. CHEERS !!

What happened , is this place open for business or what? Did someone get caught with there hand in the cookie jar?

I agree i had an awsome time as well total turnaround from before i keep hearing topless cheers & i agree CHEERS to this place . c ya soon

I agree, had great time last two times I was there as well. it was almost like a topless cheers. everyone knows everyone and both times it was like a party atmosphere not some stiff or dreary strip club like most are. anyway had a great time and i will be back (tonight actually).

went in last night for the first time since the management change. I had a great time. I did not see one ugly or fat girl, there were 10 or 11 girls dancing and a few more sitting at the bar and playing pool. I had a great time and will be back. . just my two cents.

who bought it? I thought matt and tap already bought it

This Club was just sold today !! Woohoo !!

Not to worry. The court posted a notice to sell the club and they are taking offers. So there will be new owners. Probably someone other than the current managers. Of course you could always go somewhere else?

when is the bullshit at this club ever going to end?? they have one shitty management team after another go in this place and whoever is there now is by far the worst. whoever owns this place should just walk out into traffic right at the corner and do the world a favor!

Its true that we dont have a lot of girls on rotation right now. we fired most of them when we got here. they were nasty used up illegal dancers. our rotation now consists of between 7 and 20 depending on the time and day. but all of the girls are now quality (unlike when we took it over). as far as drink specials..... we offer 69 bottled beers. domestics $4 imports $5. $5 bombers all the time, $3 beer of the day (changes daily) $4 jager, rumple minz, and gold shlager shots all the time..... mondays are $3 domestic bottles & $4 jack daniels. fridays are $3 stella artois..... what more do you want....lol.

Very Very poor experiences last couple of visits. No girls, No drink specials, and little to No service. I'll keep checking.

Ive never seen anything like it !!!!! I?ve been going to strip clubs my whole life. I heard this place was under new management so i decided to check it out Sun afternoon. The Park lot was full (never seen that here b4). When I went inside I was meet by a 30 + actors & dancers in zombie make up. They were shooting a video for creepshow 666. A bunch of the customers got into the video and a huge after party with the band went all night!! I?ve never seen so many different beers at a strip club. This place has completely changed. VERY IMPRESSED!!! Thanks Guys!!

Yup! Tap and Matthew have fired over 20 Dancers and all but 2 of the old staff. To turn a club around you must first get rid of the cancer. Now the long haul of the turn around phase begins. It may be slow for a while; no advertisement or promotions are being done yet. Never invite someone into a dirty house!! All of the cancer has been removed the house is now clean!! We have over 69 BOTTLED BEERS ?A house party type atmosphere. Enjoy a smoke with Arizona Hookah?s on Fridays and Sundays. Or ask the bartender about our ?House Hookah?. See ?Danger? do fire shows!! and a ?Master B&D Roper? tie up our Beautiful women!! You never know what you will see at Vegas!! And you?ll have an experience unlike any other cabaret in the Valley?.

As of january 23rd the old cr?me management team was put in the club by the superior court of arizona because they were the only ones that were able to prove capacity to the courts that they were the only ones capable in the past 5 + years to turn a legal profit at this location. tap, matthew, john and mezmur have transformed vegas from a ghetto hip hop urban club to the only rock based topless cabaret in the valley. the club now caters to everyone and most every genre except rap & hip hop. they now carry 69 bottled beers and 8 super premium drafts. table dances are only $5 (to help u out in this economy). come check out the new legally & professionally run vegas cabaret !!

I that is sad. I used to work here and it was a blast . I worked day and nite. This was my home away from home. the girls would all work together for the most part and the customers always bought dances. It sucks to hear that it has gotten that bad. Stephiane

Troy and Angeleake did pay their employees while they owned it. Joe took over in Nov and was responsible for it after that. The club has gotten so bad that his sales aren't enough to pay anyone. There are constant fights now and so many illegal things going on that he'll be shut down soon enough.

But is it his (Joe's ) fault that the employees havent been paid. Should that not fall on Troy and his wife to pay what they owed the staff from before they left? Where did the new owner come from anyway?What else has he owned before?

The club is now owned by a moron named joe. He has no clue how to run a club and pretty much allows anything to happen. A lot of the staff has walked out cause he can't pay them. He allows the strippers to run it. You thought this club was a shithole before....it's even worse now.

I thought that troy and his wife were the ones that owned this club. WHo is the new owner.

Nobody got rid of her....she walked out. You must be someone she fired. She was the one who took care of everything there and now it's gone to shit. That's why they have crack hoes now you f'n moron. The club will continue to go downhill cause it's now being run by a bunch of morons who don't know what they're doing. And the owner is getting robbed blind by his "wonderful" staff.

FINALLY!! Someone got their head out of their ass and got rid of "Bobbi"!!!! What is wrong with the owners of this club? CONSISTENCY! And stop hiring crack hoes!

Vegas vegas vegas....wow some girls a bomb don't get me wrong but I was in there the other day and that girl rocsi performed who the fuck hired that ugly bitch?my dick was hard I was drunk and happy then she hit the stage and my shit got extra soft..she has NOOO titties no ass and looks like a fucking man..she seem like a nasty slut to.my home boi told me she turned tricks to that nasty bitch probaly got aids ugh!!!

Well, that didn't last long. This club is up for sale again. The first idiot that can come up with $800, 000 takes the place. I say knock down the whole dam place and put up a berger king!

funny how shit turns up missing and it is a strippers fault.

yes there was , but that was along time ago. If I remember rite she was black . if not the same girl my bad.

There has never been anyone here by that name that I know of.

I hope Vivian is re-hired!

How are the private dances here?

Congratulations Bobbi!!!! You truly deserve it! I may actually come back now!!!! "you know who"

Stuart told me not dance here because it was run by idiots.I checked it out anyways and was surprised how much better it was than Babydolls.

When are you gonna bring back girls of the past? i miss the old girls that used to be here.

well he is a liar. and yes it does work still going for 5 months now, and actually everybody told troy it was a dumb idea, but he did it anyways.

I was told that a dj that once worked there had told them about the idea . They told him that it would never work.. Funny cause I guess it does...

Angeleake and troy came up with the idea when two girls were fighting in the parking lot

Im am happy that she has made it to mgr. I hope that they get their shit straight though at this club , because they don't seem to know how to keep mgt... or employees for that matter. By the way who came up with the cage fighting anyway?

It is true that Bobbi has been promoted to mgr. Her last day of dancing will be on the 31st. If you would like to see her one last time I know she would love to dance for you. Hurry though...time is running out.

I heard that they have new mgt... I was told that you are the new mgr. at vegas now ?? any truth you wont be dancing any more just mgr..

Are the dances here $5 or $10+ (the page that takes you to the posts says they are $10 and $20 VIP)? Some have posted that the dances are only $5.

yeah dude she's riding my pole. when i get tired of her she'll be back

I guess no one knows what happened to Serenity then? She dancing elsewhere maybe?

I believe that the other club in phoenix that offers a $5 dance is Teasers. They have and they state they will always be the home of the $5 dance. They do however have a vip area.

I can't believe that you are having $5 dances... Now there are two clubs in the valley you can go to to get cheap a*s dances.. Now you can saves your hard earned money on the things you want most Beer !!!!!!!!!

so dante throws dj cnc under the bus when they get caught stealing once again

So, what are the private dances like? Can you touch the dancers here?

This club is great will go back again great time there last week.

clean house, everyone should go these club always have azzzzz in them

.. that cute Philipino (Lynn?) and the blonde with the incredible azzzzz (Karen I think?) are the bomb. I sure wouldn't fire either of them!

maybe this owner is starting to figure out hiring ghetto thieves isnt the way to bring the business up. Now all that is left is to fire everyone that works here bar.

i heard cnc got fired!

at least will was smart enough to sell this place before it went this bad. are you the guy that is telling everyone you own this place thursday night? if your that guy, nobody listens to a drunk opinion anyway

will is a dumbass, and i am sure nobody learned anything from him.

Everyone jumps to Bobbi's aid, but no one defends Veronica??

I used to work at this club when it was HOTS. We used to kill it. Its a shame that the family didn't pay the taxes and lost it. Bobbi doen't suck dick. She might not be the youngest, skinnest or prettiest(no offense Bobbi). But she knows how to do her job. She hussles! She knows how to talk to and work a customer. Don't hate. She is actually a really nice person too. Her and Catherine from back in the day used to kill it here.All the girls did. It's a shame this place has never even been close to what it used to be.

Was in Thursday night for the fight. Had a great time. The club was poppin with lots of hot girls and great drink specials. Can't wait for this Thursday.

You get em girl... forget the little shit bobbi you know what your doing.... they just can't make money and they have nothing better to do than to run their mouths from behind a computer screen where they feel safe. see ya at vegas baby

To those of you that want to say that I suck dick why don't you come in here and we will discuss it. You all want to hide behind the computer talking shit. I don't suck dick for money and have never had to. I make money because I know how to do my job. If this is a jealous bitch...get over yourself. Work harder and treat your customers with respect and they will come back to see you. Quit hating on me. If you can't say it to my face...don't say it at all. BOBBI

william sucks big black cock

Bobbi will suck anyones dick for money, not because anyone is special! she is just old fat ugly and worn out from a hard life, just put her out to pasture with the rest of the old nags.

Come on people get a life ! What is the issue do you have nothing better to do then to spread worthless rumors around about people. Even if it were true what makes you so dam special that she would want to suck you dick?

Did Bobbi suck your dick to?

I had 5 dances from Bobbi today. She ROCKS!!!!!!!

The only reason that you would post a comment like that is because you can't make money yourself or have no guts to say it to her yourself! There are many different men who like ladies of all sizes, and if you took a second to watch her and talk with her you would see that your an ass ! If there was no one that liked her then she wouldn't be in this business! If you are a customer then you were just not worth her time. Bobbi rocks and it sucks to be a hater... Grow the fuck up and move on. If this club doesn't do it for you then go else where. Bobbi you got my vote ! Love ya Babe SEE YA AT VEGAS

The girls working the hoses in this place are bobbi and veronica. bobbi is the old tattooed battle axe during the day and veronica is the 6' plus girl at night. hey they do tip the best in the club so management looks the other way, so you can enjoy them yourself.

Radiator hoses have all the luck damnit..

Nah shes to buzy sucking radiator hoses

....Dylan ever read this board?

After reading the drama on here for a number of months, I finally decided to check it out for myself. It's not a horrible club.. I'd call it an average club, neighborhood bar-ish, with some potential. It needs a couple things.. more girls, and more customers. If I were them, I'd get more couches on the walls though. Right now there's only 2 couches, and both are too big. Take out those big sofas and put in five couch booths (ala Sinn).. Probably could put in the equal on the opposite wall between the bathrooms under the DJ booth. Everyone hates dances in chairs.. no one wants to go to VIP without a little taste beforehand.. so two guys camping on those huge sofas nursing their 2 for 1 drinks will kill the action.

Happy hour until 9. (2-4-1 specials) i will b there for that. great place to go and the girls are hot!!!!!

Who'z making fun of the new United Nations Building?

i just got dun feding my 3 chillins, and I kuntkerd wit dat utter dude - wez all betta proteck our invetment.

Before you start talking shit about this club, why don't you go back to school and learn how to spell! Why does it matter who the owner is, as long as everyone is making money, why should it matter? Get a life.

Too busy losing money I guess.

Looks like the old hanger ons are back to bashing this club. somethings never change, someone new owns this club and the old dummys that got tossed out when jack took it back are still bashing this place. dont you guys have something to do yet, like buy glasses for your wife or some soap for yourself. we know who you are, get a life

that's some good shit. ........... True but good.

dave only wishes he was getting this club. it will b a cold day in hell before that happens

Why isn't stuart responding with his witty comments anymore? does he not know people are saying shit about him? i miss those responses that he used to put on this site when people would talk about him. that guy is hilarious!

Dave who? Don't keep us in the dark !

Stuart always spreads rumors people others are stealing when in actuality he might be the one.

I just got hired at this club and just want to say that it is a beautiful club! Everyone was very nice, especially Karl the day manager, he treated me with respect and was very nice to me. I will definitely be back to work at this club!

go cards !!!!!!!!! woohooo !!!!!!!!!!

You guys all suck worse than the shitty Raiders! Go F#@K yourself and that fatass DJ CNC is a loser and a joke, he fits right in at this joke of a topless bar with the rest of your loser asses!

i thought the RAIDer boy was dante? that guy doesnt seem to get anything right except to steal and BS owners.

RAIDer boy didnt write that DICKWEED

hello!!! Jake does not work here anymore. this place does not have a parking problem because mexicans ride 10-20 deep in every car. and there is never more than 4 cars in the lot, 1dancer car, 1bartender car, 1drunk owner car, and 1car full of mexicans. get it right RAIDer boy

i like this club hot girls good customer service and, i feel jake is doing a great job running this place but jake you need to do something about the parking i had to park across the street.

Hey Dante.......Who is your favorite football team? Is it the RAIDers? Dickweed

I was blown by 2 of your dancers. Ain't diversity great?????

I cant believe how bad this place has gotten. I was about to work here with william (i had worked with him in las vegas), our timing didnt line up, thank god im not there now. cnc and dante are known for bringing alot of problems to where ever they work. if the owners read this, you should really check their work history, it will speak for itself. there are good management teams with solid backrounds out there that would take this over for you. just spend a little money on them and let them deal with problems. Tommy

This place blows ass in the worst way! What a joke, you put a picture of your fat ass dj in your playtime add (reason 4 that is the girls are ugly and to fat to fit on the page) your dj is the worst in town and he thinks he is a god, lol. Mr. Vegas, lol. The only thing he knows about Vegas is the shit hole he works in viva vegas cabaret, the only jockey job he could get in a club in vegas is being a cock jockey in a mens room! Your staff and dancers are a joke too. I will be taking my time, money & reviews else where! Won't be see ya later, The King

You will have to pay for drinks now. travis is gone and he was the only one givin out drinks for free. you will have to go to sinn now to get your drinks. we dont take bumbs here

Cnc finally came out of the closet huh?

Amen sister !!!! sing it out loud !!!!!!!!!! fyi - they just hired a known hiv+ transexual dancer here.........enjoy.

u guys need to stop hating dante and cnc. They were not the ones stealing it was Travis

Yup. their names are donte and cnc(cookies and cream).

I heard this place is being run by two NIGGERS now. is this true?

I think that was said perfectly ! But why ? If this club was doing so much better why are the guys running to the other clubs and telling everyone how bad it was for them , when they came in. I have heard the sex thingy from alot of customers that have went into this club. If the mgt was so great why are you on here at all you should be bending over doing your jobs... ( dancing ) what did you think I was talking about. lol

Suck my dick faggot. i'm going to go back and kill all of you two faced, thieving, cocksuckers!

alright all the people who got fired from here need to stop talking shit about this club. You all got fired because you suck at your jobs, get over it and get new jobs you bums. The new managment knows what the fuck theyre doing and you dont, so go work at burger king losers.

This club really knows how to treat its customers. I never pay for a drink there and in return all the staff make a lot of money off of me and my friends. If other clubs knew how to take care of people they might do well too.

What are you kidding????? hotts was worse than any of them jeez u must really like shitty places. go to mustang sallys its alot like hots was. or pin ups also

I am sorry to hear that he got fired. However I don't think that Troy cares, if he did then he would have never let go of the people that were keeping this place going for so long! Too bad for this place though cause it could have been better. Hell it will never be like Hotts again but who cares now right?

Did you hear what Dante and CNC did this week. They had Travis (GM) fired so Dante can take over the club. They are already stealing VIP $$, shaking down girls and stealing liquor for their personal consumption. This is Pantera/BabyDolls all over again. These guys have to go far, far away. Hopefully Troy will find this out soon enough, or bankruptcy will be his next step. Half of the staff quit in support of Travis. Attention: Anyone who has been fired for stealing. Apply Here. No background check. Free Booze and ugly as women.

Dirty fat ass girls, illegals will suck you off for $30 bucks .. this club had always been a shitty club trying to become something too bad...

Had my first child two weeks ago. Minor complications arose and she had to be placed in the Maturnity Ward with about 30 other babies crying their eyes out. The experience I had is not unlike reading the posts on this site!!!

you people are a bunch of idiots. i have known stuart for a very long time and he does not give a fuck how these clubs do because he makes his money from the trafficking of drugs and guns. he has everyone convinced that he can't stand drugs, but all of the money from these things is filtered through his shitty clubs. i will give him one thing, he is much smarter than anyone gives him credit for. do not underestimate this guy, he will fuck you over if it is in his best interest in a heart beat.

The idiot that hired the current management is the real problem. You would find out that even if you brought in talented management, the idiot that owns the club would still fuck things up. I know from experiance that when you work for a shitty owner there is nothing you can do to make the club profitable.

Learn people?s names before you start throwing BS around. Who the hell is dowde ? Do you mean David DOW? It is true that Stuart is one of the biggest idiots in the world. Back home we call him the "fall guy". He is the front man. Anything goes wrong with club operations from a legal standpoint, Stuart is the one who is going to take the fall. Come on, David A. and David D. are both attorneys, you think they are going to leave THEMSELVES open to a lawsuit. Stuart does this for them so he can have the typical strip club manager mentality and attitude of "I am better than you". It is an attitude bred from insecurity and ignorance. After all of that, Stuart is not the problem here. Simply put.... Current Management is.

Uh, how is stuart behind all the problems with this place? I would say it's more like shitty management. I mean get real there has never been any management in this club that actually knows how to run a strip club. You give this club some CONSISTENT, KNOWLEDGABLE management and it will make money.

Ive seen alot of changes at this place for sometime some good some bad. Stuart is just mad that he cant get this place. its common knowledge that he is behind all of the problems this place has had for the last year and a half. If he wasnt so broke he would have bought when the last guys sold it. Even with alexander and dowde really running the clubs from the armchairs, they still couldnt come up with the cash. broke old ass wannabes.

They need to quit advertising that stupid 10, 000 dollar contest also. EVERY dancer in town knows they will never pay out that money. I know they thought they would start pulling dancers from other clubs, but hell if every dancer knows it's bullshit. I mean shit they can't even pay the 200.00 on the weekly contest. But oh yeah I forgot, bar sales are up and clientel is improving.

Stuart needs to call it a day & go manage the China Star Buffets. Every thing he touches turns to rotten chow-mein. Seriously I don't understand how his clubs stay in business. I really wouldn't be surprised though if he ends up running this place eventually.

You must work at the club to make that post. everybody in the industry knows who dante and christian are and what's up with them. so in short you can't bullshit anybody. the club will get worse with them. they will be out on their asses once troy and his wife start to go broke. troy and his wife will lose the money they have invested and will lose the club. prediction: troy loses club within 8 months. prediction 2: new owners will fuck it up also prediction 3: business as usual will go on.

Stuart is a bitch, he has a problem with this place back since William and Rob owned it. He is just mad that this place does better every year and his clubs are going down the tubes. With Donte and Christian here things are really getting better every week.

Stuart from Baby dolls said this club sucked .He is full of it this club is great.

We have already been saying that ! I don't think that they realy care because if they did , then this club would not be in the shape that it is now. I have never seen this club run so badly... by anyone ever! I have heard so many stories about who works here now that it makes me wonder if this place is not just a write off for Troy and his wife.. Or a toy that they will soon get tired of playing with .. Besides its great what info you can get from the web.. such as who has their name on what lic... lol

This club could not possibly suck more. All the new owners have done is brought in a bunch of thieves. We'll all be saying, "i told you so" in a matter of months!

I used to be a dancer here and know for a fact that the doormen (or at least one) wears a bulletproof vest and carries a gun (which is definitely illegal by the way). But that's what happens when you work in the sh!ttiest part of Phoenix.

Why is everyone bashing this place. i was in here last week and got a great blow job. only $20!!! so wtf?? ok so she was fat and nasty. but $20 !!!!!!!!!!!!!! come on!!

I can't yet understand what it is about this club that draws so much attention to it ! it is not that great of a club yet everyone and their mother want's to waste their time to post about it. I think that they should just level it and put a burger king there.

What's that fish that follows the shark around uninvitedly and just hangs around like the ultimate pest? Answer: the people who incessantly and negatively comment here. Incredibly, they won't go away. Its apparent that they, like those fish, may well expire if they don't have the shark to tag around and feed off of. Looooosers!

Ok people.....let's get one thing straight. Our doormen do not wear vests or carry guns. It amazes me the stupidity of the people on here. The incident with the guy who the doorman had to take down last week was the customers fault. The idiot who posted about it certainly likes to embellish about things....but your simple minds will believe everything negative you read on here. This is why you are all on here. You don't know facts and don't like the club......so don't go. Bitch and complain all you want, it won't change the fact that bar sales have gone up and the clientel is improving.

Now I guess we have all been told. Troy get your head out of whatever ass its in and see what hell your bar is in. I would have never thought that this club would be run this way. Or that it would cater to people like that ! Wow and vests... thats screams class.... Let me guess all the glass ware was changed from plain glasses to pimp ware.. and instead of V.i.p you have hoe rooms! When does the bullet proof glass for the bartender go in?

look this club is gangster, if you dont like that go to scottsdale, this club caters to gangster, illegals and other types. People get shot when you put all them together, nobody is being forced to this club, they all choose to go there knowing the risks. And doormen wear vests and carry guns for that reason. So if you dont like it dont go.

Ok so you say! You must be the one exception to the rule then. I agree with the other guy. This place has gone downhill big time. They had a chance with alot of people that knew the bar and had ran it well to keep doing so. people that truly cared for the club. The owners went their own way .Hey they knew alot about running a strip club right!!!!!!!!!!! I cant believe that there was another incident the other night with a bouncer ! I thought that the owners were so concerened with their investment that they wanted better for the club. When will anyone open their eyes and see what has been done? Maybe never at the rate this club is going.

I was a manager for the zanzucchi for over nine years and i was a very good manager.never sold or did drugs.also i never dealt in pimping out girls.i did alot of good, more than just turning a key to open the door.you should remember all of us are not bad.i managed, bandaids, t d's north, and raiders reef.

They did not hire new management. they hired new pimps and drug pushers. People that work for zanzuki have NO management capabilities at all. They are ROBOTS. They come in unlock the doors and that?s it. The zanzukis have a concept, the locations, the marketing budget and the local authorities in their pocket. All that a manger from a zanzuki club (i.e panterras) is good for is selling drugs and whores. And oh yea, a good shoot out in the parking lot every couple months or so. This club has just joined the likes of bandaids, babydolls and Teasers. GREAT JOB GUYS!! KEEP UP THE SHITTY WORK !! Its tough to find idiots as CONSISTANT as you. I Bought a Glock and a Vest the other day; can I get into your fine establishment now??

wow ! I am having a hard time with believing that someone who works here would do something like that. What is the owners doing about all the violence that is happening here? Why has it gotten so bad. I can't think of a time ever when it was this bad. I thought that the new owners knew what they were doing when they hired this new dj for $1000.00 per week and all this new mgt? All I can say is wow , should n't be much longer now

so im here yesturday when i see the doorman walk a little mexican guy out as im walking to my car. words exchange and i watch this skin head doorman pummel this excessively drunk old man into the ground. within 5min the parking lot is full of cops, a firetruck and emts helping the customer that just got attacked by the doorman. that was my last time comming here. its back to the hiliter for me.

Do you still think it's not really the clubs fault? What the fuck? This shit does'nt happen at clubs that don't play ganster crap.......I mean gangster rap. Don't forget you can't spell "crap" with out "rap."

We can all tell where you are thinking from: your ass ! there was another club resently that had a shooting too, same type of customers and getto ass people that work there. That same club has their bouncers wear bullet proof vests and they are proud of that. wow please do stand by what you said it just backs up what the rest of us already know Vegas is now officialy ghetto ! I thought no one could be as bad as pantera's ! think again. maybe if this club had metal dectors then alot less shootings would happen, of never mind !

There were 234 murders in Phoenix last year. The murder rate in Phoenix is 15 per 100000, which is 3 times the national average. I am sure a great deal of these were gunfire deaths, although I don't have any numbers. As I said, mf's get shot all the time in this town, and I stand by my statement.

Your fucking idiot dude. Not the clubs fault? If they did'nt cater to a bunch hip hop gun totting gansters that shooting would have never happened. Mf's get shot all over eh? What an ignorant statment.

Has there been any improvements to the parking situation? It was never very good and one of the reasons I haven't stopped in. By the way , mf's get shot in this town all the time, I find it hard to blame the club. Maybe if the police were less busy with bullshit DUI checkpoints............

The crime tape has moved to vegas

Rumors? Thats what you call a fucking shooting. I like how you tried to downplay it by calling it "road rage" to make seem harmless when infact one of you scumbag costomers shot someone and could have killed them. Over what? Have you ever been shot at? If you had you would'nt think thats its no big deal.

No one got shot in the club and no one died. It was road rage in the parking lot. One vehicle leaving and one coming in. The one coming in didn't move fast enough for the one leaving and a passenger in the vehicle that was leaving got out and shot the guy in the shoulder. He since has been released form the hospital. No arrests have been made at this time. YOU PEOPLE NEED TO GET A LIFE. Spreading rumors with no facts is absurd.

When are you going to wake up and see that this is a club that is loosing their rep... within the community because nobody here sees the issue at hand. Alot of customers are not wanting to step foot back in there because of the bullshit that comes along with entering this club. There was a shooting twice this year alone, , lack of girls when customers do come in, I am sure that you know where the rest of this is going. I am not a hater nor do I have the green eyed monster issue ... just a person that likes to go to strip clubs and have a good time.

I'll bet that these same naysayers were echoing the exact same things with the former owners, i.e., the club is going straight downhill, which apparently was going straight downhill from the prior owners, etc., etc. How far downhill is downhill? 3-4 owners ago, the club must have been making millions. I detect some serious jealousy. The other day, I went to a restaurant that I thought sucked. However, for some odd reason, I have yet to be compelled to bitch and moan about it, let alone on a daily basis.

i agree with that last comment. i am never going back to this club, at least not without a bullet proof vest!! the new owners are totally clueless and carry themselves like adolescent crackhead alcoholic teens. to add insult to injury they have brought in two of the biggest idiots in the club industry in to run the place. everywhere that christian and donte go there are problems and lots of stealing. if the new owners continue to run the way they have been, this club will be up for sale again real soon!!

you know i never really had a prob with vegas. but since the new owners took over, it has completly gone down hill. Atleast when Will owned it, it ran smoother and there were ppl in the building. now there are shootings and cars getting broken into.. i personaly didnt care for Will. but atleast he didnt make a complete ass of himself getting outta control wasted. the new owners are a joke and obvious have no idea wht they're doing. i would never go back and work there. for fear of something happening.. wht a great cliental they have attracted.

I can't believe it ... a shooting here ? wow what a great club .. I mean with such great customers how could this have ever happened here? Isn't this the second time now ? My be someone should get a clue and make some changes... Twice in one year is not a good track record for this kind of business.

I am not sure if that rummor is true , but think about it.. This club has not done well in a long time. What could this club have to offer ? I heard that your old manager Manny now works in the mens bathroom as a bathroom attendant! What's up with that?

why is it being shut down?

This club is going to close very soon.

why is it up on a banner strew on the outside of the building? I would think that the new owner would have idea's of their own and not want to use something that someone else came up with.

The old vegas website no longer works because that was something maintained by the previous owner and not the current owner..

I would like to know where the vegas website is that is posted outside your club. I have went to the web address that was listed and the site is down can someone please tell me what went wrong?

it looks shity outside but inside is nice and there's hot girls!!

Went in last weekend and thought the club was good will check it out again.

I have also worked there under many new owners and I have to say that when Will was there at least there was a few customers in there. I am not bad mouthing the club the club does that for itself. I heard that the last time there was the contest they failed to pay the winner what was owed . they stated that there wasn't enough people there ! what krap is that? Where are all the money makers that used to work at the this club now? Get a clue the new owners are no better than anyother owner that has went through this club!

I have also worked here under all the owners and must say that I disagree with you saying that the new owners are the worst yet. They are by far better than Will ever was. They have worked to make improvements inside and out and are still continuing to do so. Business has started picking up and there are a variety of women to choose from. There will always be bad mouthing of clubs...that's just the way this industry is. For those of you wanting to know how it is....I simply suggest stopping in and checking it out for yourself.

This club is doing horrible! This is the worst club in Phoenix by far. I have danced there while it was Hots, Kreme, and Vegas under Will, and the new owners are the worst yet. I don't know why I keep going back everytime ownership changes, but I won't be doing that anymore. What a waste of fucking time!!!

So does anyone know how this club is doing lately?

Well Ron, I have NO IDEA who you are. It is interesting that you would come on a public forum and bad mouth me with lies and slanderous posts.....Why would you do something so stupid?? Are you the one who took Brian?s Medication?? FYI...The Club Brian was claiming to own was not Diamond Cabaret....it was "la Boheme". And Brian claimed that the deal was DONE!!! Money had gone THROUGH ESCROW!! As far as making millions for someone....congratulations. Does he want a Cookie or a Bozo Button?? Because it is obvious that "Imaginary Bruce" wants nothing to do with Brian. Why is that? Anyway Ron, please stop posting comments about me, at least until you get to know me. Otherwise you are just spewing Ignorance. ??Tap.

Tap that last post was me. Brian is a very close friend of mine and I guess some of his viewpoints rubbed off on me. However I still stand by what I said. You guys know that Brian was trying to buy DIAMOND CABARET in colorado. BUT what you don't know is that his "partner" completely and totally ripped him off and cleaned him out of everything he owns. Luckily his remodeling business is taking off or he would be bankrupt. So don't attack him since he doesn't read this board. If you have issues with him then call him on his cell and face him. It's not cool how he was treated considering he made this particular "partner" quiet literally millions in profits. (and me also)

Hey now , be nice. Brian is just trying to help , , i have had this conversation with him about a thousand times ... Brian knows all about how screwed up people can be in this town ... He should also know it is not easy to hook up with some long term situation here that isnt a nightmare and that the good ones are locked up tight .. The revolving door nightmare situations are of course the most easy to get involved in but they should be avoided unless you are absolutely prepared to deal with something like that and you know exactly what your getting yourselves into..

To the last poster..... HI BRIAN. You out of your Medication already? Maybe you should go check in on the club you bought in Denver. LOL !! FYI - I used to do $75k - $100k AVERAGE on a Friday night at the club I ran in Chicago for 5 YEARS. I agree, it would be nice to find longevity at a club. But in Arizona seems to be nothing but talkers and wanna be's. And the owners are all corrupt perverts that have no idea what they are doing. They ALL micro manage and try to use the club as their personal drug shop and whore house....NO THANKS..........Tap.

Well I guess that's all you can do is "imagine" what the numbers would be. Since you never managed anything north of 75000 a month in sales. Let me tell you, that's the real test. Any idiot can manage a club and make numbers in the 50-70 range. The real test is can you manage a club over the course of 4 or 5 years and consistently run the gross up until you are making 150 or 200 a month. And for that you have literally NO IDEA how hard that is, BECAUSE YOU'VE NEVER DONE IT. Hence you are an UNPROVEN manager. PS if steve c actually will let you manage a christies, you ought to take him up on it. That way you can get real experiance.

Actually, I ran amazons/kandies for over a year then I moved to the jungle, then I was asked to come back to amazons/sinn by peter, then I went to cr?me, then I backed away from the industry but had offers to manage at a few zanzuki clubs, as well as offers from steve c. to run christies back east. I managed at pin ups for a short time, in waiting mode. EVERY CLUB I HAVE WORKED OR RAN, I LEFT...I have NEVER been fired..EVER!! Also, you very eloquently made my point for me. It?s true that I have not been at one club for a very long time.(I usually leave when i see the owners true colors). Yet in such a short time (at EVERY CLUB) I make the numbers increase dramatically. Imagine the numbers if I found a straight shooting owner!!!....Tap.

in response to the "re: tap" fella , I dont mind working for someone else , as long as they are decent ... but that is the problem ..... We kept putting ourselves into very unstable situations (which just ended up making us look bad) and that is something we are trying avoid nowadays ... So when all of your available options suck , , you create your own options.... that was the reason for the investors and whatnot .... BTW , i was working for someone else very recently at Le girls, but i chose to leave them so i could go help my guys when they were over at Pinups... That may have been risky but it was something that i had to do.. .

One must wonder what a proper business man like Troy is doing ? Does he not know what is going on in his newest property?I know he is a busy man and all and that this was a gift for his wife , but realy !! Who is doing the hiring at this club if it isn't Troy or His wife? Where did that Manny guy go to? Or was it him that created this mess?

Yeah your right. The club blows. Christian and his guys are thieving assholes. That's why stewart got rid of them. Unfortunately for troy, he must not have checked them out. So first he gets ripped by william and then gets taken by christian. OUCH!

Look I think that everyone has lost track of what this site is for! You are here to give your view of this club! Not on what you think of tap and matty. If you don't know them personaly then shut the hell up you have no room to talk ! This club needs an eye opener and I don't think that they will get it. They have burned too many people that have went out of their way big time to help make this club work to some degree. Sometimes that mgt that you have is not what they appear to be! The owners need to open their eyes and see what the real deal is . Let go of the kindergarden shit and grow up !

No offense man, but what numbers? You've never ran a club for more than 3 months at a time. You and Matt might be nice guys, and you might even be the greatest management team in the history of strip clubs BUT you are an unproven entity. That's probably why you guys can't find jobs and nobody will invest in a club for you to run. I would reccomend that you guys actually get jobs and work them for a few years to get a solid track record of success. Then somebody might let you guys take over a club and run it how you see fit.

To "why"..Thank you for your comments. I have also found, that people who backstab, do so because you are in front of them. I know I am "good at what I do" numbers do not lie, and I've got the numbers to back up what I say. But as good as I am, I am only as good as my weakest teammate. I have been fortunate enough to surround myself with honest, loyal, dedicated & hard working people. The numbers I produce are a DIRECT result of their hard work as much (if not more) than it is of my experience, knowledge and management style. So, to "why"...Thank you for your kind comment. To all of the people that have worked with me in the past....Thank you for everything you did......Tap.

Mr "Why" , thank you ....You are absolutely right... We shouldnt bother with the naysayers but it does offer us the opportunity to make our points in a public forum.. Myself or the people i work with as a group will never make everyone in the world happy.....that will never happen, and trying to make it happen would be a total waste of time.. This sort of philosophy is what made us choose to take the direction that we did.... Catering to a number of specific compatible groups that i didnt think were currently being served very well around the valley which actually began to generate alot of excitement in some of these communities when they found out what we were doing.... They wanted to jump in and help us make it work....

say nay to the naysayers!

Why do you guys give a fuck what anyone on here says or thinks? Matt and Tap, you guys are good at what you do. The only people's thoughts about you guys that matter are your own. If you guys have pissed some people off in this industry... good! Fuck them! I've been doing this for a little while and I can tell you one thing... Success breeds jealousy. If people are talking about you, its because somehow, someway, you guys are a threat to them. So fuck the nay-sayers.

guess what? went into Vegas cabaret today, hung out for a while.... Bought a few bottles of water, tipped girls on stage, shook hands, got hugs and saw some cool people (a few of them were dancers i know and the others were just hangin out) ..... I took my time and talked to people.... Relaxed ... Saw Tim and Chuck a couple of old regulars from the Creme days ... It was fun .... I had a good time ..... While i was there nobody asked me to leave or said anything about being banned......Just as i suspected, someone is scared and wants me away from that place so badly that they would resort to impersonating the owner for purposes of Trickery.... Im sure Troy wouldnt be happy to find out one of his own employees was doing that.

Yeah Tap , dont believe it , that guy must be an imposter because like i said Troy has my number and for him to call me and tell me this is easy enough .... I also saw him in person recently and he could have very easily said something to me then... Besides why would he ban someone who has been nothing but good for the club since they bought it? , and nothing but personable, generous and well behaved while i am there.... and as you pointed out why would he ban someone else whom he doesnt even know ........ unless he has allowed himself to be influenced by someone who is misleading him........ but im sure he is much too smart for that..... so i dont believe it...

To the poster before last. Where do you see that I have been banned??? Somehow I doubt Troy is going to Ban someone he has never meet. As far as my "posse" or being in a "posse", you obviously have no idea who I am or what I am about. I do not have a 'Posse" nor am I a part of anyones "posse". I am just a guy that brings Up Numbers wherever I go (have #'s to prove it). I do it legally & that ruffles a lot of feathers in this industry....I dont back down from anyone and that to ruffles feathers. I expect very high standards from my employees...this ruffles feathers since this industry is full of the laziest people in the world. Everyone is looking for the quick buck...unfortunatly this usualy includes owners as well......Tap.

Hey "T" since when are we banned??? .... I was in there recently and nobody said anything to me about being banned ... and what have i done to these new owners besides defend them on here??? say nice things about them??? Oh , how about bringing dancers to their club??? or how about bringing customers to their club that buy drinks and tip girls??? I myself tip girls when i go in there .....

i hope troy does get rid of this site. i worked here when william owned this place and this was nothing but a pain in his ass. same people on here today as there use to be hasseling another new owner. these guys are like the az heat it just dosent quit. good luck to the new owners, thanks for banning matt, tap and the rest of their possie, ill be back to see how your club is doing soon. T

So are we all to believe that you are just going to walk away from the club ... the same club that you have invested so much of your hard earned money in with will ! oR are you just running away from comments that are left here on the board. mostly from people that work at your club that are bored stiff from not having anything better to do then post crap ! wow I would have never guessed !!!

I dont beleive that is Troy , He has my phone number, he could have called me to tell me that im not welcome , , or he could have told me on thursday night when i was standing in front of him shaking his hand ...... I at least deserve a phone call and an explanation if i am to be 86ed ..

To all that are posting on my Club (Vegas Cabaret): BE AWARE THAT WITHIN 7 DAYS, VEGAS CABARET WILL NO LONGER BE HERE TO POST YOUR FRUSTRATIONS AND DEROGATORY REMARKS. I AM PULLING THE PLUG ON THIS SITE. As to Matthew, you are no longer welcome in MY CLUB. Take your patronage elsewhere. Troy Bray

Wow, all of you are in serious need of getting lives!!!

what is this the personal message board for matt and tap? cant you guys go stroke each other somewhere else?

Hello JJ , I just posted my e-mail addy in my previous message .... sorry about the weird characters , it looks a little cryptic and hard to read but i wasnt sure if they filter and ban people who post e-mail addresses on here ......... I dont want to bother with having to change my I.P. , go through a proxy, or some other P.I.T.A. procedure to get back on here if i get banned...

Hey Matt and/or Tap: what is your email? i want to say hello!

go to bandaids, it is a much nicer club.no drama, no bs, much nicer looking girls, not that far away

Matt here?s my favorite pic of you.didnt post last time.current events = we are still in Iraq paying with our soldiers lives 4 bush's revenge of sadams attempted assassination of daddy. This whole thing is angering Bush since he cannot yet reap the financial rewards from Iraqi oil production...elsewhere in the world, Al quida is regaining strength in Afghanistan since Bush has allocated all of our resources to the previously mentioned fiasco.... Mike Vick, is going to jail and most likely will not play in the NFL again. If life were fair, he would be electrocuted, shot, hung and slammed repeatedly to the ground until he is dead...kinda like he did to the innocent dogs...elsewhere Vegas Cabaret seems to be a complete failure...AGAIN!....Tap.

Alright now guys, be nice.... They are trying to make changes down there, the new owners are nice people and they are putting alot of effort into this thing........... .... ..By the way , who is saying that i never went down there when Will was there???? how can you be so opinionated when you dont know what you are talking about?? amazing! ... I was hanging with Will and helping those guys get into that club even before Jack gave it up ..... I helped Will get control of the place so he could get it open as Vegas, I provided Will with a heck of alot of information, went to court with him, provided him with girls & staff, 2 of my guys brought the concepts and design for Will's cards ... I even managed for Will for month 1 of Vegas cabaret.

you want to know about current events? currently the events suck! not as much as this club sucks, but the current events suck too!

there is nothing worth talking about happening today

This shits funny. Why is this board called Vegas when it should be called "People who love to talk about Matt n Tap". These guys worked there over 2 years ago but there still the only topic on the clubs board. Does'nt that seem a little odd to anyone? When are you guys gonna start talkin about the club and the shit thats happening today? You know, current events.

See what I mean?? This last poster is a perfect example of people that post about something with NO KNOWLEDGE of the subject they are talking about. Since the only people in the office at Sinn when I was jumped was Julie(ano) his wanna be tough guy peter and me. Peter almost had his neck snapped and julie ended up a cowering pussy in the corner screaming "let him go tap". Yea I had a bloody nose, that was from peters second and last punch. His first one was at the BACK of my head...Neither my folder or my 44 oz mt. dew fell from my hands when he hit me with his cheap shot (and he had a ring on)....Get it right/ post your name or shut up...Whats up Sean??. Matt great pic of you from NAM!! but this is my favorite of you.....Tap.

you know, one of these days you guys are going to get yourself into something you cant get out of. everyones has heard about taps ass beating in the office at sinn, and we know how none of you guys even came on the property when williams little ass owned this place. you guys are about as tough as wet toilet paper. shit stains that wont go away, like taps reputation as a failure in this business and matts bad personal hygene.