the boy in the mens bathroom.
Who sucks the best dick here
is this place even open? seems deserted every time i pass.
watch out narc posing as dancer making rounds detroit suburb clubs drives silver mustang blonde older real name kim careful next 2 months busting up clubs dont give her any info stay safe
I haven't been here in about a year. Does Quill still dance here?
Nothing but ghetto trash here. Save your dollars.
Used to be the #1 place to go. Now, waste of time and money.
Hahahahhaa this place has crashed and burned and crashed and burned again.no way this place can ever make it with shit management.every employee sucks dick
Go see karma on nights she's the best
Whatever happened to Star from the day shift?
Girls girls girls
I know goddess is like that, she's a hustler with that money, she's a hoe and she'll rob you blind! Is is the same juliana? Fake tits, older, short, long blonde streaked brown hair, shitty tattoos? Got her kids names on her just like goddess, that's a tattoo that is uncomfortable to see when you're getting your dick licked
Both fuck without condoms and said they fuck the managing staff to get out of tip out. The staff takes there pussy over money for the club and goddess is greedy as f*** and will suck the staff and you dry as hell
Day shift Juliana???
any new girls
I miss Venus' sexy laugh.
Why? What's wrong with goddess? Seems a little crazy, but not more than any other stripper
Watch out for goddess.
Nice club but bad location
The manager is beyond unprofessional and extremely forceful with sexual favors.he hits the shit out of women
need to bring venus back.
Does that hoe got a std but the whole crew working there does. The fucnn place is a brothel.every1 fucks for money and the boss makes every new slut in there fuck him.they all nasty and the drinks weak as ever.the owners even fuck them young ass broads in there nasty place all them clubs
Watch out girls Ralph ripple has an std
All small titties. Wtf
The new night manager seems to know what he's doing compared to all the others. He has stepped this place up quicker than the rest in the past monthalone. I still think the club is extremely "dirty" and by dirty I mean toomany drugs and sex lingering around.the owners should just sell it back
Stopped in Thursday night, charged for valet, charged for cover. Full price for my one beer. 3 girls working, not one came over to say hi. Worst vibe I've ever experienced in a club. Don't waste your time.
Emily usually gives sex to the managers And offers her goods for cash so she can catch a ride home. She claims the managers and owners usually take care of her as well
Who's Emily? I own a cab ha
Had a blast here last night! There were about 20 strippers and they all looked sexy. The place was very nice compared to a few years ago. I was quite impressed! Plus I got a great dance too. Happy they have curtains for privacy unlike a lot of Detroit clubs. I will be visiting often!
A pool table is far more entertaining than the broads they have working here! The management team and owners must be there for the cash and extras only because this place is horrid and shameful. Does Emily still suck the staff dicks for her cab fair? Is she still working here?
might as well go back to Terry's Lounge and put a pool table in
Jimmy Crawford and Paula is right!!! What a shame this place is unless you're into that kind of "crowd" this place is better off a biker bar....or maybe a liquor store.
Wow...Jimmy Crawford and Paula ...blast from the past
This place is disgusting
Is this place having problems ? Saw cops outside here twice in a week..same owners?? And what are the hours
This place is horrible now!!!! Management has no idea what their doing and there was 2 girls working on a Wednesday afternoon.i will stick with landing strip and flight club
I went once on a Saturday night and it totally empty. They had find a dancer to put an stage. Is it different now?
What happened to this place? Used to be the hottest club in town.
Where does she keep her gun?
I am coming in town for my quarterly meetings in dearborn. (im from chicago) Im not a huge fans of strip clubs but i do have a desire for latinas, mexicans etc. im looking to spend some money on the best ones i can find. if anyone has any knowledge of where i can find latino type girls please reply. also the best strippers in the area with nice asses. willing to spend big $$ on the right one. ill be in town for 2 weeks and plan on spending lots of time in area clubs looking for big butt latinas. (i plan on posting this to many pages)
careful, girl posing as dancer is a narc. Busting up clubs. hitting these areas, detroit, (& suburbs) lansing, ann arbor battle creek/kalamazoo/and saginaw area. blonde 40s or 50 looks 35 , real name they think, is Kim. black car bad news, dont answer any questions totally narcing for cops
they treat the girls very badly here
Run by dirty management and disgusting girls. white trash club and bad reputation
I saw Subi in there the other night so you are probably right.
i heard the owners from subis are taking it over soon
who owns this place??
This club should close. It is just terrible.
Which girls do extra's?
Great club. Clean and new. Nice VIP and the staff are on top of things. The dancers know what to do
No it's open again. It's opened a few months ago same kind of dancers as last time tho nothing special.
Did playhouse reopen I heard they shut down.
Excellent club. I was very pleased with both the entertainers and the staff. Everyone was professional and I felt very comfortable. I will definitely be back. Thank you, Playhouse!!!!
This place only had one dancer and was looking like it was about to close.
The club is cool. It's a great place to chill out. No real pressure as there is in the other higher end clubs. The dancers are always enjoyable. I visit as often as possible, which is only once a week. I would like to spend more time, but have other demands. I really have a good time when I'm at the Playhouse!
dont give this girl any info. she is hitting detroit clubs now posing as both a waitress and dancer blonde real name Kim upper 40s looks lower mid 30s drives a black car, total narc questions when she sat by me. let all dancers managers know. Total cop informant
Must be owners of the club posing as customers because this place has no business. Nicely remodeled club, expensive cover $10, lackluster talent on stage only a few ladies working on a Thursday eve a few weeks ago, outrageously high VIP entry $20, then it's $25 per song. One girl really pressured me to get a private dance, but I wasn't interested at that point. One saving grace was $3 bottles of domestic beer, but don't forget the $6 charge to get your car back from the valet. I won't return. I usually have a great time at Henry's N or S, more relaxed atmosphere and better selection of dancers to enjoy while spending less money.
I was pleasantly surprised by my visit to the PLAYHOUSE! I stopped by to have lunch. It was around 1PM. They had 8 dancers, a hostess, bartender, waitress, Manager, DJ, and 2 servers. I ordered Surf and Turf and it was AWESOME! I was really amazed at the quality presented. I asked about the Chef and was told that he left LELLI's to return to the Playhouse, where he had worked in the past. I will be back tonight!
I drove by Monday and the place was closed. Did this place close its doors again?
stopped in and there was nobody there. couple dancers but not on stage. went to the smoking section and some guy tried to sell me drugs and his girlfriend. the guy was working harder then the dancers so I left.
The Playhouse has been a bit slow lately. I like going after 9, when it starts to happen. It's still a great club and people there are friendly and treat me well.
Key word you used is "better clubs"! This place is barely operational with minimal talent and a half ass show! How do you justify charging the customer premium $$ for very little in return? Believe me, I get what "successful clubs" are charging and how they can justify doing so but this is far from that! This place is bleeding $$ w/no plan to get on track. Do yourself a favor and hire a qualified manager or sell the place!
Sounds like the person who posted the last comment is lost in time. I frequent most of the better clubs and they ALL charge these fees! Whoever posted the last comment is lost in time or completely out of touch with the industry. The only clubs that don't charge are the ones I don't want to go to. I pay the charges because I get treated well and appreciate the work the clubs do . If you don't want to pay you won't be able to go to a club. I pay to play! Thank you for providing me with a place where I can be comfortable and be treated very well.
$6 Valet+ $10 cover + drink= $25 to sit down 4 or 5 alright girls, not like they used to have $25 to get into VIP $20 a dance Until they get their prices in line with this century, STAY AWAY. You want to spend that kind of money go to the Flight Club or up to Eight Mile
anything happening at this club? any girls working here?
Is this the same one that worked at Hustler Club
Is Natalie returning??
What are the hours during the week?
hopefully yes. don't need any Africans at the new playhouse. stay in Detroit with the rest of the animals.
So do u have to be white and skinny to work here
I'm patiently waiting for my doll to return!!
valet: 6. cover: 7. coat check: 2 or 3.
how much is the valet charge? how much is the cover charge? coat check charge? any additional charges for a private dance?
Sure whatever you say, place will be closed in 3 months with current arrangement, valet and cover charge have nothing do do with it=NO GIRLS! No one comes in there to see the managers happy ass!
went to the opening of the new playhouse, , what a beautiful club !!!! not many dancers during the opening week but enough to keep the stage goin, , give this place sometime , it could explode, awesome management but a little costly for valet and door
Now they're saying this Friday (2/7) at 4:00 PM.
No. They haven't even responded to the hacking of their FB page that happened a couple of weeks ago. Looks like their shoulders are already pinned to the mat.
Is this place open yet?
Still haven't noticed it. The FB page looks like it's gotten hacked again and their Twitter stream appears dead. These idiots are too dumb to notice.
Looks like their Facebook site just got hacked. It may be fixed by now.
They won't need employees because there will be no customers
They seem to be having trouble hiring people. They've advertised three separate job fairs: two in Nov and another tomorrow. Plus, the place still isn't finished. Now they're saying "open by Christmas". But they didn't say of which year.
When did or does this place plan to reopen?
"Opening in November 2013...."
Can't wait to hear that sexy laugh of hers again.
rumor has it that venus is going to be the feature dancer.
November ends tomorrow.
Subi's best friend Alec Lepper is running the place so this must be another Saaaaaaad ass ARAB BAR!
Please tell me this sexy piece of work is returning. I have been trying to find her for years and was sad that you guys closed. This was her home.
This is great! Can't wait for the relaunch. This club was the best. Bring back my baby Natalie. I missed that smile and those long legs!!!
Bring back Hunter, Star & Red!
[please post when will be the grand opening. this used to be the best club in town.
Hi Guys. The remodel is going great! We are having our Job Fair on Thursday November the 14th 2PM til 8PM. We're looking for Bartenders, Cocktailers, Shot Girls, Valet, Doormen, Kitchen Staff and of course Entertainers! We look forward to seeing you. Bring your resume's and upbeat personalities to The Playhouse 13201 Middlebelt Rd, Romulus MI Thursday November 14th 2PM til 8PM. See ya then!
Rumor's floating around of a remodeling and subsequent re-opening in November.
Is Selina working and why the fone line is always busy every time I call
Does she work days or nights? Thx for info !!
she is @ the landing strip
Looking for the tall blonde who originally started out as a waitress and then went into dancing at the Playhouse. Any helpful direction would be very appreciated
Does anyone have contact info on the owner I want to purchase this property
farve the balding bouncer is the squating in the place. Its the only place that ever liked him. I also heard he has std, from some section 8 girl. So stay away girls
U care obviously or u wouldn't be on this site stupid!!
Reopen???? Who the fuck cares?
HAZMAT signs posted on the doors at this club.
When's the big guy going to reopen this joint?
Hi All, Looking for a new dancer, Gemma or Lisa, Blond great body. She would have come from Silver Crickett. Anyone know if she works here now. She was talking of switching. Thanks
Last time I drove passed this place was closed. Is it open now?
Yeah i heard the bathroom guy and the old dj hip hop are squatting at the ph serving food to the local trash in section 8 housing
Squatters serving hot cakes out of the ph kitchen! heard the old bathroom guy is the new cook!
She gave in ..moved with the chink where she's working to support them
Star will be performing on dudes at the STRIp just like all of the other gals who left. that guy with the lazy eye ran off all the talent. couldnt keep his comments to himself.heard he moved to china
One day on the continent of asia, two businessman were playing a game of ping pong. Xidong hit the ping pong ball to Vong. Upon receiving the shot, Vong immediately fell directly to the ground. A few days later duing a doctors visit, Vong was told that his left testicle would need to be removed and replaced by a synthetic testicle. After the doctors visit, Vong took himself to an asian diner and ordered himself an entree that consisted of beef with brocoli, and Kung Pao chicken. Hang in there you world famous asian. fu$$$$$$$$kkkkk off Romulus
I heard the dark skin squatter reopened the kitchen and is serving hot wings to his homies
That was the hot blonde that the asian bartender was in love with.Heard she left him for a 90 year old vet DR
I heard the creepy owner ran off all of the talent here and they now are all at the STRIP-what a shame-this used to be a great place-now I heard the place is closed and has squatters living it!
Does anyone know what happen to the baseball player that was a manager. He use to swing with me and my wife. I heard he was still working in the business at another club?
When Star comes to town this Xmas where will she work? This joint is closed and Hustler (where her friend XXtasy was) has clamped down on everything good!
envy married a black ass african and now has a little zebra.
Thanks for the tip I will be looking into what you said susan.
Where is sweet blonde named Envy? Did she get married, is she still dancing? She used to work thurs and sat night then suddenly disappeared.
Farve was the man, I made tons of money off him. Inside and outside the culb, he would direct me the way over to the table. I wish I new what club he was at? We both would pull in a 2gees a week. I haven't made that kind of money since . And as*hole cop we know its closed get a life with your little piggy
Playhouse is fucking closed, you asshole.
girl just starting to make rounds this month posing as a dancer busting up clubs total cop narc black car license plate says "go figure" spread word dont give her info cop narc!
I can't believe he use to fine u also. It was atleast 100 dollars every 2 weeks and he would tell me ifi said anything he would fire me also. He said he runs this place and the owner dump and believeseverything he says. I guess he working on 8 mile somewhere girls beware.
F*uck farve he would fine us girls and spilt it with the dj
So did kristen retire? she has been at the game for a long long long long time.lol
What happened to Morgan? Where is she working at?
When is this place going to reopen? i heard it sold
His name was farve and all he ever did was try to get us girls to fell his cock. He even would say he would leave our house fee if we suck his cock in the office. F*ck farve
Is this place effin' closed?
Does anyone know where angel works?
One day on the continent of asia in the country of Malyasia two businessman were playing a game of ping pong. Quong Xiadong hit theping pong ball to Jong. Upon receiving th shot, Jong immediately fell directly to the ground. A few days after this ping pong incident, Jong went to an asian diner in southeastern Mchigan and ordered an asian entree tat onsisted of chinese brocoli, fried rice, Kung Pao chicken, and last but not least a fortune cookie. Currently, Jong is at a medical clinic having his testicles removed. Hang in there you lucky asian fu%%%%%%((((((((kkkkkk off playhouse
The playhouse started falling to sh*t when jason copeland getting on his hi horse and they fired shawn and the other jasons. I miss the old days with rob and chat.
The playhouse is remodeing its' establishment because a dancer by the name of Morgan kept showing up to work as a dancer with a large, fury amount of pubic hair under her dance outfit. One of the employees of the playhouse asked Morgan why she kept this large, fury amount of pubic hair and she told the employee that she could no longer afford to buy razors to get rid of this large fury amount of hair under her dance outfit. Morgan, we only ask that you buy razors to get rid of that hair under your dance outfit. fu$$$$$$$kkkkkkk off Romulus
Oops. He's probably nine. My mom's been dead for 10 years.
definitely twelve years old. thirteen tops. Oh, by the way, I banged yo mom while she wore thirteen tops. fu$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk off Romulus
Definitely 12 years old. 13 tops.
Let's hope they install sound proof booths in the VIP area, so that you totally can hear Venus laughing. When Venus laughs, then more of the trailer trash butholes spend more money and constantly keep the club in remodel mode. When the club is constantly in remodel mode, then Venus becomes the award winner of the club and takes all of the trailer trash butholes bucks. Fu$$$$$$$$$$kkkkkk off Romulus
Let's hope they install sound proof booths in the VIP so you can't hear Venus laughing.
I heard that the Playhouse is remodeling and that it will be better than ever and that it will be the best club in Michigan. I really can't wait. I'm tired of the assholes running the clubs around here. I
Has this place finally closed? Stopped by Friday night and the place was closed!
Has the last man entered the p.h, and a new man that had a sex change performed on him entered the p.h. fu$$$$$$$$$kkkk off Romulus
Any info on Claudia? Cute, medium build, avg. height, dark red hair, b-cup naturals. Used to dance here in the late '90s and again around 2005 or so. Is she still around anywhere?
Recently, a train carrying boride, fluoride, ammonium, and zinc pellets collided with a small lime green colored automobile on a set of tracks in the county of Wayne. A train conductor from the train exited the cabin to assist. Shortly after the train conductor was assisting, a police automoile arrived and verified that the train conductor was operating the train with an expired license. No further updates are available at this time.
The first lap dance I ever got at the Playhouse was from Venus. That was in 1992. No shit!
Linda Lovelace, Marilyn Chambers...etc!
Shit, name someone who HASN'T worked with Venus.
I think she is married now with two kids. Went back to California to do mature modeling and was doing stand up. Girl loves the stage and the stage loved her. She worked with Beth, Tia, Diamond, Venus...When the club was in it;s hay day. Those day's are GONE!
What happened to the exotic GiGi. Stringy bleach blondes don't do it for me. GiGi was EXOTIC. In every way. Mature, smart and steamy facial expressions that nobody could copy!!
Extras available here? was zero dances when i walked in the other afternoon
One day on the continent of asia, in the country of Malyasia two businessman were playing a game of ping pong. Pong hit the ping pong ball to Nong. Upon receiving the shot, Nong decided to forfeit the ping pong match and head to the local doctor for a sex change. Nong now has a special set of synthetic balls. Hang in there you lucky oriental. fu$$$$$$$$$kkkkkk off Romulus
Recently, a train carrying sulphur trioxide, fluoride, borium, and zinc pellets collided with a small four door passenger car near the Intersection of twenty four mile and nine mile road in macomb county. A taiwanese train conductor hopped out of his seat and assisted the two female passengers in the four door passenger car. One of the women in the four door passenger car immediately flashed her huge fake boobs at the taiwanese train conductor. fu$$$$$$$$$kkkk off playhouse
Is there still a costume guy or woman that sells outfits at the PH? If so what nights?
One day on the continent of asia, two businessman were playing a game of ping pong. Uong hit the ping pong ball to Hong. Upon receiving the shot, Hong immediately fell directly to the ground. A few days later during a doctors visit, Hong had his liver, lungs, and both kidneys' removed. Hong is in the hospital being treated by nurses. fu$$$$$$$$kkkkkk off Romulus
Not a lotta girls, but the ones they have are hot & definately fun.
One day on the continent of asia two businessman were playing a game of ping pong. Quong hit the ping pong ball to Aong. A few days later Aong was told that his left testicle would need to be removed.
I don't know what these prior posters are whining about. Paid a recent visit this past Thursday night right after shift change and convinced a couple of the regular day shift dancers to stay late and work the night shift. Had a great time as always with some of the most beautiful women on the east side. Whiners can move along to Coliseum.
Went there a while ago and there was a new girl you could tell her name was Mia But she sure does know how to give a hell of a lap dance
You bought dances from the bathroom attendant? Dancers are contractors, not employees, asswipe!!!!
Has the last man entered the playhouse and attempted to buy a series of dances from an employee of the playhouse, and has the last man left the playhouse to find his way back to his residence, while stopping along the way just to fill up his car with gas from a business that deals out high priced gas to its daily visitors. $$$$$$$ oh, one more thing (fu$$$$kkkkk off to the bathroom attendant in the men$$$$'s room)
Has the last man entered the playhouse and attempted to buy a beverage from an employee, and has the last man left the playhouse to attempt to find his way back to where he makes his residence. I$$$$$$s th$$$$$e ph's building's do$$$$$rs unlocked so dance$$$$$rs can cu$$$$$mmmm in and atempt to consume a beve$$$$$age fu$$$$$$$$$kkkkk off to employeee's who attempt to serve bevere$$$$ages I$$$$$$s the ph's building's do$$$$$$rs unlocked so dancer$$$$s can cu$$$$mmmm in and attempt to consume a beve$$$$$$$age
Has the last man entered the playhouse after attempting to buy a beverage from an employee, and has the last man left the playhouse to try to find his way back to where he lives. Oh and one more thing fu$$$$$ccccc$$$$$$kkkkkk off Mo(the guy in the men's restroom) $$$$$$$ Go to hell playhouse You will not see me anymore!
you heard wrong asshole!!!!! fu$$$$$$$$$kkkk off Romulus
You heard wrong, asshole!
Guess what: The Playhouse is in metro Detroit fuckwit P.S. to whomever fu$$$$$kkkkwit is, guess how many times I urinated at your ugly wifes home located out in the suburbs of metro Detroit. I heard she was a good fu$$$$$kkk too. fu$$$$$$$$kkkkk off Romulus
The Playhouse is in Romulus, fuckwit.
Recently, a small section of the playhouse's bar and grill caught on fire. Apparently, one of the cooks in the kitchen was cooking some steak to put in a steak salad and it ignited a fire. One of the cooks immediately grabbed the nearest fire extinguisher. While trying to remove the pin on the fire extinguisher, another employee at the playhouse dialed an emergency dispatcher. Within several minutes, an engine from the Inkster department showed up at the building to examine the fire. Due to inadequate information the Inkster department left shortly after examining the fire. P.S. this material was written by a firefighter from the Inkster department.
Has the playhouse closed its doors to see what the publics reaction is, and has the last man left the club to find his way home.
One day on the continent of asis in the country of Malyasia two businessman were playing a competitve game of ping pong. Uong hit the ping pong ball to Xiadong. Upon receiving the shot, Uong immediately fell to the ground. A few days later Uong was driving to a scheduled job interview and apparenty made a wrong left turn and ended up headed going up the entrance ramp on the interstate. A semi carrying pallets of wood contacted the highway patrol who then contacted the nearest police agency. fu^^^^^^^^^^ccccccckkkkkkkkkk off Romulus
This place is beyond belief.went there last night around 10 place was closed last time i went 1 dancer closed at 11.i will never go back to this place words of wisdom sell sell sell and fast.
This is a long shot but anyone here remember a dancer by the name of Lexi that worked there sometime ago just wondering if she is dancing there or working anywhere else
Recently, a small four wheel drive Suv collided with a semi truck that was carrying vegtables and miscelaneuos canned goods near the intersection of Wick and Middlebelt Roads in the county of Wayne. A large wrecker from a Westland auto repair facility was called in to help at the scene of the accident. Fortunately, no injuries occured. As the wrecker was leaving, a law enforcement officer from Wayne county asked him if he was interested in joining him at an asian diner for a meal.
Venus would still charge you! You get no play, go fuck one of your jelly donuts loser!
Star working in Vegas now? Thought she retired to New Mexico!
Just another case of greedy agents stealing Playhouse girls/no big deal though/they wont be invited back after the project is complete
Morgan and Camille went to TC no more $ at PH
Looks like Morgan and Camille went to toychest. You guys werent takn care of em
One day on the continent of asia, in the country of Malyasia two businessman were playing a game of ping pong. Vong hit the ping pong ball to Quong. Upon receiving the shot, Vong immediately fell to the ground. A few days later during a doctors visit, Vong was told that his left testicle would need to be removed. After his doctors visit, Vong went to an asian diner and ordered an asian entree.
star! back from vegas and out of retirement eh? got a business trip to detroit soon...will have to visit this club.
Venus was lookin' good, too, right?
Paid a visit last night and was shocked to see Morgan, Star and the gorgeous Camille there. Flash back to the old days!
Is better since ddyo isnt stinking up the bar and stage area !!! marvin goldstein
Kimber is very cool if she even still works there...
Can anyone give me a good reason to come to this club? I have yet to come up with one yet (since Star left)! This place has to be closed by now!
Venus really packs 'em in, doesn't she?
Nice to see this place busy on Saturday night
Star is a money maker and is not lazy like the rest of the crew!
....but should have sent her out to pasture eons ago.
should not have let star retire....
I dont go in there anymore because girl had to been a narc, asking cop narc questions, older blonde, looks young for age she said, was showing me pics and saw part of her license, real name Kim. thin girl, fake boobs, tattoo above butt, seen her at a few clubs making wounds, posing as dancer, total narc, I am avoiding this place like the plague
Hopefully out of business! Not sure how they pay their bills! Noone goes here anymore and the moron owner is out of control by charging for EVERYTHING!
was by the ph yesterday abt 6:00pm and the place was closed tighter than a drum. did this dump get busted again?
shit happening here?
One day on the continent of asia, in the country o Malyasia two businessman were playing a game of pingpong. Zhejiang hit the ping pong ball to Zong. Upon receiving the shot, Zhejiang immediately fell directly to the ground. A few days later during a doctors visit, Zhejiang was told that his left testicle would need to be removed and replaced with a synthetic one. After hearing the news, Zhejiang went to a local asian diner and order an asian entree that consisted of beef with brocclie and beef with peapods. It is also important t note that Zhejiang is a frequent customer of the playhouse nightclub that is located in suburban Detroit. **Fu%%%%%kkkkk off all of Romulus
"Something seems different and a welcome improvement". WHAT??? They FIRED Venus?????
Recently, a man with amissing left testicle walked into the playhouse and attempted to have t hostess at the front desk fondle his left testicle. Instead, the hostess walked out to the waiting man's vehicle and siphoned all of the gas out of it. *author unknown
It's getting better at the Playhouse! Something seems different lately and a welcome improvement! YES to PLAYHOUSE!!
anyone still go here anymore?