Ciro's Place Comments

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1118 Broadway

Menands, New York 12204

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GUY 11  on Ciro's Place

posted on 6 April, 2014
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Does the hot girls sahara or Deeja work at the place anymore? They really dance ...you know...exciting. where are they?

Bluebird  on Ciro's Place

posted on 5 July, 2012
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If your out of shape, rude, and down right unattractive Ciros will hire you. You can be sloppy , stupid, and not dance, if this sounds like you please apply because they will hire you. I promise

club hopper  on Ciro's Place

posted on 24 November, 2009
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wow .lol..dan have you been dumpster diving for your girls again, , wtf is your mom still bailing you out and keeping ya a float, , are ya still gay ?? sell the club already or better yet burn the dump down every thing is riged there from the roof to the plumming and the cockarochs have race's its like your house a dump nowonder tony and duke neverd payed a sent in rent the two bulliding you own should burn to the ground and you shall work for your money just like the resr of the world you suck donkey dick and have sex with your dogs get a real club.....friends of THe DUKE and toni

steve the bud man  on Ciro's Place

posted on 24 November, 2009
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hate to bring bad news but all the fun , hot girls are gone except Dana..but she is only there twice a week if your lucky you with catch her ...the dumb blonde bartender cant make a drink to save her life if ya want bottle beer then she good to go what ever you do dont get a mix drink ....or a hamburg yuck the food sucks the cook is the fat owner like ya want some guy who jerks off to the camaras in the back touching your food or the hood rat that cooks at night this place is not worth your time or dime, , , , , , , , , , , its ZEROS nott CIROS

Fred  on Ciro's Place

posted on 23 November, 2009
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Where does Mouse work now that she's left this place?

dump  on Ciro's Place

posted on 20 November, 2009
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I can't believe that this place even exists. There was one blond skank here recently (Sabrina?) that was obviously high on something. The bathroom doesn't have a door that locks. There's no nudity, and they girls here are mostly aloof or ugly. There was one short white girl with braces here & another blond white girl that were kind of hot, but that's it. I couldn't figure out where the DJ booth was, but he can apparently see the entire club via a lot of cameras in the main room. Stay away from this joint for sure.

club hopper  on Ciro's Place

posted on 10 November, 2009
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what a dump my buddy told me they had food so we went to eat the wings had a hair in it the burger was a fake frozen flat bun steal what the hell dan we been comming for a while and you serve us crap like that i think we will stick to a bottle of beer if thee is a next time?? and what the hell is with the fat black girl on mondays she has a lot oh hair on her upper lip?? is it a girl and the old skinny black woman with the braids and the loud mouth asking for free drinks all the time come on Danny its a joke right ? where the hell is mouse she was so sweet and tight ya have agirls with ther boobs to the waist and they are only 20 ??? you should just sell asap.....................................4sure

steve the bud man  on Ciro's Place

posted on 9 November, 2009
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hey whats up albany stoped in to find out once again the asswhole pice of shit owner dan cadalso fired the best two girls that ever worked there, , this fat bastard does this at least once a year i dont know how the hell he is still in bussiness his mom may she rest in peace isnt even around to bail him out of debt, , , well there is still a couple of good girls left like khloe and lia they will probley be gone in 6 to 8 months like every other great girl that passes threw mayby someday that asswhole peice of shit fat bastard will sell it to one of us good guys and well enough said good luck ya fat piece of shit see ya when i see ya dan

Jim from Upstate  on Ciro's Place

posted on 24 October, 2009
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Does anyone know where Mouse works now?

THE MIXOLAGIST  on Ciro's Place

posted on 22 October, 2009
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Hey guys and girls if ya want to see bella and mimi they work at the garden grill in albany on 2nd ave together behind the bar, , , , woo hoo cum see them and have a few

club hopper  on Ciro's Place

posted on 17 August, 2009
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well helllo albany, , stoped by ciros place and beautiful bell and 4 new girls wow young also and white nice ...drinks were great barmaid mixed some pink white grape idk were great ..and now they have lunch real food good wings see ya this week wed or thurday hope i see bella and mimi and sabrina she was a hand full lol more shots please, , , , , ill leave my drunk friend home...

Mouse  on Ciro's Place

posted on 18 April, 2009
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I only work Monday day shift, and Tuesday through Thrusday night shift, sorry. I like having my weekends to myself.

Jim  on Ciro's Place

posted on 4 April, 2009
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Mouse, do you work next weekend?

Jaydog  on Ciro's Place

posted on 6 March, 2009
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How is this club?? contact dances or air dances?? good mileage? about how many girls work on a Friday night? Thanks

Pete  on Ciro's Place

posted on 4 March, 2009
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Could I get some info on the girls here? Are there a lot of hot black girls here?

Jim  on Ciro's Place

posted on 4 March, 2009
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I was debating too Mouse, but you went ahead and said it perfectly -

Mouse  on Ciro's Place

posted on 3 March, 2009
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I was debating whether or not to dignify a response but I have to say sorry Sam, I am not in my teens. I may not look it, but I am 21, and I do not weigh 88lbs, I weigh 100lbs, which is healthy for my frame. After all its not actually about weight, now is it, it's about what looks good. Yet, I do have to agree with you, Jay and Dana are very beautiful women, who I adore.

sam i am  on Ciro's Place

posted on 2 March, 2009
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jim if you read this you need to get help and leave the teens alone.....

Jim  on Ciro's Place

posted on 21 February, 2009
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Mouse, if you read this, you already are a nice lady - everything about you is perfect and I can't wait to see you again - No one has ever danced the way you do -

sam  on Ciro's Place

posted on 19 February, 2009
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jim i know you have to be kidding...mouse she weighs in at about 88 pounds she looks like she is 14 what are you into teens...maybe some day she will grow into nice lady maybe in about 5 years come on dude be real....check out jay or dana they are more our age and are beautiful...

Jim  on Ciro's Place

posted on 8 February, 2009
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I'm looking forward to it, Mouse -

Mouse  on Ciro's Place

posted on 7 February, 2009
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I'm glad that at least someone had enjoyed me being on the other side of the bar. Maybe I'll see you when I'm on that side again.

Jim  on Ciro's Place

posted on 1 February, 2009
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I was here last night (Saturday) and had a wonderful time with a dancer/barmaid named "Mouse". She is beautiful, sexy and has a wonderful personality. The dances she gave left me wanting more and more. Mouse if you read this, I can't wait to get back to see you. I am the older guy who lives upstate.

club hopper  on Ciro's Place

posted on 12 January, 2009
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hey happy new year to you all....we went to ciros last week...we had fun some really beautiful girl named bella and a really hot black girl named asia both young and hot just like we like them lol...not sure what the bartenders name was she was great pretty but a little older then the two dancers we did lots of shots and danced and sang for hours hope i catch them same girls again ...keep smiling girls i love ya...see ya on another tuesday morning real soon keep them hard girls...your the best.......adam

steve the bud man  on Ciro's Place

posted on 29 December, 2008
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hey, , , what the hell is going on.we stoped by friday the 19th and it looked like every dancer there was atleast 4o come on dan ...i thought we did away with the old girls, , , where was beautiful bella and stacey..i know it was mimis off friday because we went to see her at the other bar...those girls need to give it up and hang up there thongs... i mean how long before they see what we see...yuck...dancers should be young and beautiful, , Dan ya cant be that hard up..we walked in and right out.....girls ya were young but that was a long long time ago...stay home and take care of your kids or should i say grand kids.... see ya soon bella stacey and of course our fav bartender mimi...happy new year dan and you girls

steve the bud man...  on Ciro's Place

posted on 27 October, 2008
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hey whats up guys went to ciros today mary quit that sucks but if you want to see her go to the garden grill in alabany on 2nd ave she works there alot...any way dana is still there and stacey mary cant make a drink like mimi but she was hot...stop in for halloween friday they are having a party its gonna be fun chicks will be flashing tits for sure see ya there, , , , steve

steve and alex...  on Ciro's Place

posted on 30 September, 2008
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hey guys did ya see the beautiful girl they have on mondays and every other friday she bartends her name is mary she is beautiful a nd sweet..and can make a drink with out asking whats in it..lol ..bella you are beautiful and stacey you are still my favorite...mimi you are the best ever..oh yea and to you mr club hopper have you ever even been there, , because if you were you would know mimi dont need your prays she has all she needs you go girl you look great with all the waight you lost love you girls ....steve and alex the bud men...

Club Hopper  on Ciro's Place

posted on 29 September, 2008
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Yeah, stopped in last week at night the place was a ghost town. So sad, at least at night it used to be busy when Ally and Caroline were there. By the way Steve, I know who you are because I have been there during the day, I bet your wife would love to know what a scumbag you are. Before you throw smart ass comments you ought to remember, people who live in glass houses shouldn't throw rocks! Don't you have kids to be a father to instead of wishing in your mid life crisis you could get laid by a dancer! You really are pathetic. As for MiMi keep trying you need all the prayers in the world. Sorry to hear another good dancer is leaving, but I know where to look for you girls when I wanna have a few drinks and talk.

john  on Ciro's Place

posted on 7 September, 2008
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hello every one its true stacey is back she said she went on vacation...well we missed you girl bella cant do it alone..she sure did a great job trying...see ya this wed.mimi put some bud lime on ice stacey i love you.....me

steve and alex...  on Ciro's Place

posted on 6 September, 2008
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stacey if you read this comment just want you to know we are so glad your back..me and alex boycotted the place untill we saw your car...thank you for that...everybody she is back...see ya this week girls....steve and alex....ps bell i love you

steve and alex...  on Ciro's Place

posted on 5 September, 2008
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hi everyone...first of all stacey did not quit she would never leave mimi alex or me...and for the nighttime bartenders they were mean and hard on the eyes and always talking about fighting so no loss there..bella stacey and dana is all we need...and for bartenters well they will be just fine...what the new young and pretty girls dont know mimi will teach them after all she was the bartender when the place opened...so if ya want to have a clean hot sexy dance come in any tues..wed..thur..fri..or sat you wont be disappointed...all dan did was get rid of the trash...see ya soon steve

Club Hopper  on Ciro's Place

posted on 27 August, 2008
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This place is a shit hole!!! I thought it sucked when the one night time bartender quit, but Stacey quit, and the other bartender on the weekends quit...what the hell. Why bother with a club that no one understands how to run. You don't let the employees quit that bring in money...unless you don't know how to run a business. I used to like this place, but too much drama. I rather go to a real club now. This used to be my favorite bar to just hang at, screw this shit!

steve the bud man  on Ciro's Place

posted on 17 July, 2008
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hello just want to tell you guys who havent been at ciros in the last 2 weeks to go and bring some dollors for the beautiful new girls ...bella wow deffently one of the hottest girls in upstate, , and natasha wow another hot one..and of course one of my favorites stacey...even the girls at night are hot, , , keep up the good work , , mimi see ya this week....steve

one of ciros girls  on Ciro's Place

posted on 15 July, 2008
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to whom ever wrotr the last commet....why the hell whould we ever want to work at clod 9...1st of all its in troy hahahahaahh...2nd its a little whole in the wall....3rd we are not hos...we dont take any thing off we are nice girls not strippers so why would you tell us to go work were strippers and hos take off every thing ...duh we are go-go get it twisted ok

looking for new face  on Ciro's Place

posted on 17 April, 2008
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hey ladies cloud 9 is open and we have been very busy we are looking for new faces to join our crew if you are insterested in making some good money give us a call 2725231

Jim  on Ciro's Place

posted on 9 March, 2008
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CHINA, Do you still read these postings? I went here Friday night to see you but they said you've retired. Let me know if you've seen this, please, and I'll send you my e-mail address, Jim

Hey Question  on Ciro's Place

posted on 28 February, 2008
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Check out the board for Cloud 9. The postings there are much worse.

Question  on Ciro's Place

posted on 20 February, 2008
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Why is it that people who post messages on these boards write like they quit school in the 5th grade ?

scott...  on Ciro's Place

posted on 11 February, 2008
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went to see the new girls , thursday they were cute if you like fake boobs and bleached hair, , me i like not so much make up and dark hair but thats just me my buddy dave likes light skin girls you now have a couple of each good job but you are no DECARLOS and its too crazy at nights for us but we will be back soon.....take care

club hopper  on Ciro's Place

posted on 29 January, 2008
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Was there Friday night. Had a blast the new girls were fun! Legacy is a doll, Toni is funny as hell, and Ally next time I come in we'll have another Henny! I can say I really enjoyed myself. Night is where it's at guys!!! Stop in on the weekend you won't regret it!!!

hot new girls yea  on Ciro's Place

posted on 27 January, 2008
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just want to say we went to the club on wenesday wow there was 7 or 8 girls one hoter then the next ...good going who ever is doing the hireing its like it was years ago...the new girl cassie is soooooooooooo hot, , , all the girls are now yea great job see ya wenesday.........steve

sexy porn star  on Ciro's Place

posted on 21 January, 2008
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guys cum and see KATIE at ADULT PLEASURES in LITTLE FALLS NY sexy bitch she will make you cum bitch made me cum hopefull I will get to cum back to this place soon also

Jim  on Ciro's Place

posted on 23 November, 2007
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Hi Dana, This is Jim, from upstate, I stopped in this afternoon (Friday Nov. 23)and met you, I want to tell you how wonderful your dances were - I can't wait to get back down to Albany to see you again- you are the sexiest -

steve  on Ciro's Place

posted on 4 November, 2007
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i saw in metroland that you guys were having a 10th year reuion party..well when is it and are the new girls gonna work that day just wondering dont want to miss it ....

had a great time  on Ciro's Place

posted on 1 November, 2007
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just want to thank you girls for the great time i had friday at the halloween party lots of shots lots of girls...lots of fun i...i went back that night and again we had a good time its good to see all the girls were not crack head skinny keep up the good work mr ciro and we will see ya soon pete

M  on Ciro's Place

posted on 27 October, 2007
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wheres destiny been haven't seen her in a while now. damn she's a hottie? i'd like to see her at dicarlos or something.

Club Hopper  on Ciro's Place

posted on 23 October, 2007
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First some of you need to learn to spell. Second I've been here a few times at night and never had a bad experience. Sounds like jealousy from day time towards night. You all work at the same place, why would you try to prevent customers from going at anytime. as for no bouncer on a Friday, you obviously have NEVER been there on a Friday, because there IS a bouncer. If something happened to someone then, hell things happen to people everyday, everywhere. Get over it!!!

CHARLIE  on Ciro's Place

posted on 15 October, 2007
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Hello just want to say we had a great time there both times we went...but my buddy got in some trouble at night, , , to put it niceley if you go make sure its during the day and you will be fine ...the night time is scary no bouncer on a fridaynight its not a good area the girls are discusting at night and dont what ever you do not go on a saturdaynight its a real joke ...hahaha to have fun and be safe go during the day or you can find out for yourself......older man i just dont want any one else to get hurt.........

the man  on Ciro's Place

posted on 7 October, 2007
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easy martin stacey ok she still looks like a teen i take a dance from her in a few years but yes she is cute check out keda she is hot and tiger now thats a hot woman see ya at the club monday its a holliday yea another day to spend there

Martin  on Ciro's Place

posted on 28 September, 2007
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All I have to say is WOW!!!!! Stacey is HOTT....... I don't know what else to say she's beautiful, she can dance and her body is smokin, especially her ass!!! If you plan on going there make sure you go see stacey trust me it's def worth it!!!!!!!

dan the man.....  on Ciro's Place

posted on 19 September, 2007
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hey ...lets be just alittle bit more honst about thh club and the girls...yes the chic with the tats is hot yes i agree, , , and the girl that gives the back rubs is by farhe sweetest girl there...the skinny black girl with the red stuff in her hair sat on a stool and played the game in the corner and only got up once for some old goy wearing glasses and she is a little to old for my taste...and there was a couple younger light skin girls that were hott and stacey is hot and smart and her axcent wow that turn me on, , , and the baytender never makes us wait for a beer dude there must be a reason if she made you wait ....like maybe your a doller tipper i love this place it gets a 7 out of 10 steve and dan the man

The man  on Ciro's Place

posted on 19 September, 2007
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the tattooed bartender was the best ever! the day time bartender is ok but I waited too long for a drink. Dana is back Yeh. Stacy is a nasty H&%$#@!!!!! get rid of her if you want to keep a good club the big girl gives good rubs the small black girl with the red hair has a banging ass keeda is a good dancer you have to make your own decision about the club it's coooooool in my book it gets a 8

bartender?????  on Ciro's Place

posted on 18 September, 2007
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first of all they can never replace the chic with yhe tats she is one of a kind for sure, , , sencond who cares about the bartender that was there at night let her go to dicarols if they would have her she had a bad attitude....and they have the verry first barmaid they ever had...she is so nice and who do you know that can get along with everyone and has the place and new young pretty girls as they always say you dont fix somthing that isnt brooken so what ever your real name is...minnie your doing a great job thanks for the newyoung pretty girls keep up the good job, , , , , and who ever owns this place give her a raise, , , thanks fred

dana  on Ciro's Place

posted on 16 September, 2007
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hello dana is back cum see

M  on Ciro's Place

posted on 14 September, 2007
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what one of the hottest girls there is Destiny she's got the greatest legs ever and a very nice ass! Way better than alot of the girls I've seen there! If anyone is going to ciros soon get a dance from her! She's great.

Question  on Ciro's Place

posted on 2 September, 2007
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I was in there back in the early spring, there was a night time bartender, Latina looking with tattoos. She was mad cool, even got on stage when no one else wanted to. Where the hell is she? She was hot, with a sense of humor to boot. Why is it clubs loose good girls and keep the assholes. anyone know where she's working I'd go see her, I know she danced at DC's. Should I check there? Thanks.

re: Toni  on Ciro's Place

posted on 25 August, 2007
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I worked there and saw Toni picking her nose ! Discusting pig. I like how she wears orthopedic shoes with a thong from Wal-Mart. Real first class scum

Steve  on Ciro's Place

posted on 18 August, 2007
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all i have to say is prove me wrong from thinking that STACY isn't the person I think she is then I will shut up until then back off Honestly I think you should meet her for yourself and that will prove you 1000000% wrong then you will think twice about believing HOOTCHES Nuttin more to say I know what i know

OK  on Ciro's Place

posted on 2 August, 2007
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Steve get over your Stacy kick, or is she sucking your dick? There were a few girls I would go see, they're gone. It's now down to 2. What's the problem here? You got Toni who is rude and disgusting, working here again. I thought they got rid of her. And it's back? Why don't you just sell the business, get out. You don't know what you are doing. Let someone fix up the outside so it doasen't look like crap and get some real girls. Hmmmm idea...

re : Worst Club Ever  on Ciro's Place

posted on 18 July, 2007
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Can anyone tell me what the ladies dressing room is like ? I heard its a kitchen closet. Is China still wearing that filthy school girl outfit ?

Steve  on Ciro's Place

posted on 5 July, 2007
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FIRST OF ALL...... all you HATERS need to stop talking shit about STACY b/c she is FAR FROM A HOOKER.. She is ONE of the CLASSEST girls that work here. Just b/c she looks 100 times better than every female in here doesn't make her a hooker, and by her being so HOTTTTT doesn't mean she has to go work at a so called REAL CLUB (Di'Carlo's) she works here and doesn't take off her clothes and makes more money than the ones that do. So all you HATERS need to get off it. Remeber this Stacy is VERY CLASSY and she respects herself and her body more than all you SKANKS...... STACY IS HOT AND CLASSY all in one and you ppl are just hating......

Jimbo  on Ciro's Place

posted on 13 June, 2007
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Is that true, is Stacy a hooker?

Addict  on Ciro's Place

posted on 10 June, 2007
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Nothing to look at and Stacy is great if you want to get a lap dance from a hooker. And why are there so many fat girls. And why is the best bartender gone??? At least she was easy on the eyes not the skanks that are there now...I think she's back at Di Carlo's a real club.

Yuck!  on Ciro's Place

posted on 2 June, 2007
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From the traashy has been dancers to the bad attitude strip club dropout bartender this is one place you do not want to spend your time or money

question  on Ciro's Place

posted on 28 May, 2007
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If stacy and mya are so hot, what are they doing working in this hole in the wall when they can go to practically any other club and actaully make money

Jimbo  on Ciro's Place

posted on 19 May, 2007
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I went here Thursday night and the new girl Stacy is HOT, she is also a sweetheart and once you look into her eyes, you'll forget everything else --

Christine A.K.A MYA  on Ciro's Place

posted on 12 May, 2007
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Just thought i stop in to spread the word. there are new hot sexxxyyy females working here that just started this week. the white girl stacy omg thats all i can say white girl got junk in the trunk and jenna hot and if all goes well i will be working there, trying to get the boyfriend to agree. and if that was to happen forget about it's over watch out this puerto rican n italian bitch is hopefully coming soon to theaters near you lol.. make sure to check out the hottest new females here...

DANA  on Ciro's Place

posted on 8 April, 2007
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Can anyone tell me if dana is still working here? and if not were is she working.ch which use to be larraine's in poestenkill has a byob now.just wanted to tell her of the news.

Legal James  on Ciro's Place

posted on 5 April, 2007
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I don't think that comment about China, or about this place, was fair at all. I found this palce very clean, friendly and much more intimate and relaxing than the "big guns" places like Decarlo's or that place in Latham, Night Moves. China didn't have dirty teeth when I was there and she filled out her outfit with total sexiness.

Stripper Hell  on Ciro's Place

posted on 3 April, 2007
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When a stripper dies and goes to hell she would dance for eternity at Ciros. What a horrific place . The girls are horrible looking . The bartender wearing orthopedic shoes and a thong picking her nose and eating it ! China with her filthy outfit and black teeth - the owner should really close this place for good.

Dear Last 2 posters  on Ciro's Place

posted on 25 March, 2007
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I always wondered what this place like and was planning to go soon, but after reading your posts there is one thing left to say - thanks for the warning

ghetto dump  on Ciro's Place

posted on 24 March, 2007
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from the pig behind the bar to the long in the tooth "dancers" this place is an insult to the name "gentlemans club". Totally dirty, filthy, skanky, this place is a total shithole

tall guy  on Ciro's Place

posted on 12 March, 2007
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what a shit, it says topless on the club info, but it isnt not a place you could have pleasure.... RIO is boring, she talks a lot but doesnt entertain for what she takes.... i wouldnt go again... dont even think of going to this place....

Re : Ciros  on Ciro's Place

posted on 1 March, 2007
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What a dump. I came up to dance there and was discusted. The dressing room was in an old kitchen closet with no heat . The bathrooms were filthy. The stage needed a good cleaning. The other girls were tore the heck down. Black , dirty teeth , horrible outfits. Just the worst club ever. The owner deserves to go to hell for having such horrid conditions for the dancers. Shame on everyone there - complete pigs

Dana  on Ciro's Place

posted on 15 November, 2006
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Are you still dancing Dana? Was at my friend s house and were talking about the old place.Big ed passed away yrs ago.We use to call him the hook noise.And what ever happened to laurie the barmaid.Have not been in to see u .Maybe someday.

ShotgunJoe  on Ciro's Place

posted on 14 August, 2006
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D, I guess the range is a NO!

Dana  on Ciro's Place

posted on 17 June, 2006
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Never been to this club before or have I ? Can't remember its been so long.You would Dana.I don't have a top 5 dancer list for this club.But Dana if you read this you are on my top of the list and have always been.A dancer talked me into going to the old hang out were I first meet you.Boy well had a lot of fun with JeanAnn, Bob, Rich, So now you could say I am back home.Stop in and see sometime maybe you will see me there.Dan

Dr.D  on Ciro's Place

posted on 21 May, 2006
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So I hear if your going to go to this club been told by a friend that I have not seen in yrs that mon, wed, fri 7-11 pm is a good time.There is one dancer there that is really nice & honest..Of all the clubs I have been to she is the hottest.Can t tell you her name cause she would not like it.And hope to stop in soon if I can find the place.Can anyone tell me if the area is safe.Don t want my car with flat tires or anything like that.

B  on Ciro's Place

posted on 23 December, 2005
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Haven't been there in a few years. Had a great time with the girls, namely Layla (very nice/down to earth girl) and Tatayana. A buddy of mine and myself became regulars there. I was once smacked in the back of the head by a dancer for commenting to my buddy who she was giving a dance too, that she took what she thought she was worth from my money. Boss caught it on tape and she was fired that night. Layla...where did you go?

Couple Looking  on Ciro's Place

posted on 28 May, 2005
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Is this place still open, me & the ol man been looking for a bar for first time, .. coming to Albany soon. Let us know

night time  on Ciro's Place

posted on 3 March, 2005
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the club has changed a lot sence the last time i was there. they have a lot of new girls on latenight and the bartender is great on saturdays. the girls love to dance and have fun. how can you go wrong with a place like that. i know that i will be going back vary soon.

Spaceman Spiff  on Ciro's Place

posted on 10 November, 2004
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Well, one reason to go in the daytime (before 7pm), is to see the wonderfull bartendress Extreme - best in the Capital District for certain. Another reason is that in the daytime you don't need a bullet proof vest.

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