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2939 Jackson Street

Oshkosh, Wisconsin 54901

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joann  on Spot 25

posted on September 26, 2013
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how did shandy pass and when?

$Ms. Vonny$ charlotte to those that don  on Spot 25

posted on September 24, 2011
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to whom it may concern shandy passed away last vear and naughty girls aint hittin on a dam thing! pete messed up when he put cindy in charge ng is the "last man standing" but there is no quality , talent, or old school real entertainers there anymore and no i'm not hatin that shit aint in my body. I just speak the real shit! To all my baby girls at ng that still got love for me............"I love u miss u and aint got no problem with you " God Bless!

dee  on Spot 25

posted on June 3, 2008
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What happened that it got closed? Man this place has been open for ever. I bet pete from naught Girls is happy, thinking his place is gonna be the shit. What happened to Jodi, and Shandi

Steve  on Spot 25

posted on May 28, 2008
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The Landmark is closed. A special thanks to all the ladies that worker there. You will be missed. Hope to see you soon.

CC  on Spot 25

posted on May 27, 2008
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Is the Landmark Lounge still open?

Steve  on Spot 25

posted on March 17, 2008
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I had a great time here on Saturday night. I almost forgot how hot Billie is. Thanks to all the girls. It was like being in heaven.

She's Back  on Spot 25

posted on March 15, 2008
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Foxy's Back she'll be dancing all weekend, and she is looking awesome!

Steve  on Spot 25

posted on February 21, 2008
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had a great time the other night. I hope to get back in mid March.

???  on Spot 25

posted on January 25, 2008
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is neriah that fat blonde chik who is allways drunk or on drugs???

Guess what everybody  on Spot 25

posted on January 24, 2008
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Neriah's BACK and the fun is back!!!! Stop in and See her this weekend!

Slider  on Spot 25

posted on January 20, 2008
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Stopped in and had a great time. Rebecca's a great bartender. I saw Tori, Micky, Foxy, Figi, and Mocha. Foxys name definitely fits. Micky's always alot of fun. I got an awesome private dance from Tori!

??  on Spot 25

posted on January 11, 2008
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Gary treats the girls like crap! I have no idea why they stick around?

no  on Spot 25

posted on November 28, 2007
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but you can find ava at naughty girls right down the road. have fun!

so.....  on Spot 25

posted on November 25, 2007
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i hear there is a cow working here and her udder hangs over her pussy?true or no?

tall black woman  on Spot 25

posted on October 27, 2007
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she is age 34 or 35 and has 3 or 4 kids.

Re: Michelle b  on Spot 25

posted on October 26, 2007
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Tall balck woman can only be Sativa. Would be nicer if it was Billie. Does Chance still work there? She was always horny

michelle b  on Spot 25

posted on October 26, 2007
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no, she's a tall black woman. you know her?

Re: Michelle B?  on Spot 25

posted on October 26, 2007
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Who are you talking about? Billie. If so that is great news for guys, but kinda sucks for all the guys who have been giving her money for nothing over the past few years. More proof that nice guys finish last.

Michelle B?  on Spot 25

posted on October 25, 2007
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Hear she's prostituting

M  on Spot 25

posted on October 19, 2007
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Billie can have my car!

somebody  on Spot 25

posted on October 18, 2007
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Yep..Its the same Jessica. She still seems too like the alchohol.

Hmmm  on Spot 25

posted on October 17, 2007
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"All average looking with the exception of Jessica who was kinda scary looking." Is that the fake-blond fake-boob broken-nosed mid-30s-by-now 5'2" alcoholic Jessica who started dancing there back in '97? Cuz if it is, I'm surprised to learn that she's still alive. Glad for her, of course. But definitely surprised.

non selfesh  on Spot 25

posted on October 14, 2007
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I say that the truth is about right on of that last comment, live in the truth and it will set you free!

somebody  on Spot 25

posted on October 11, 2007
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I stopped in Tue night...more dancers than customers. All average looking with the exception of Jessica who was kinda scary looking. Didnt stay long went up toward the appleton clubs.

Billie  on Spot 25

posted on October 5, 2007
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she has been around and still at the new other place in fond du lac. I would love to fuck her, too.

yours truly  on Spot 25

posted on September 14, 2007
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go to the landmark they have the best barmaid her name is rebecca cool & hot cheek her out very nice!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Yukon  on Spot 25

posted on September 12, 2007
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Does anyone know if Simone is still working at Landmark? Thanks

Jimmy  on Spot 25

posted on September 9, 2007
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I just got done sitting in joint with one of your bartenders HUSBAND's! That is right little Miss"I am just doing the single thing" is married. Ask Miss os should I say Mrs.Jodi about her tatooed husband Ed, who has 5 more years in prison to go. Lying bitch!!!!

is it true  on Spot 25

posted on September 6, 2007
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I hear Billie is back at the Landmark. I hope so. She is so HOT. I would not mind fucking her.

Slider  on Spot 25

posted on August 25, 2007
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Stopped in tonight... There were six dancers Amanda, Brandy, Mickey, Ebony, Raven, and Platinum. Platinum is always alot of fun. Amanda is absolutely HOT!! Mickey Brandy, and Raven are great dancers, Ebony is a good dancer but not my personally type as always YMMV. Played some pool and darts, overall I had a great time and will be back soon.

b'gosh  on Spot 25

posted on August 7, 2007
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this place rocks! The bathrooms are nice and so is the lighting. It is just delightful.

a customer.  on Spot 25

posted on July 30, 2007
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Maybe they had no customers during the air show because all the people that stopped in last year were disapointed and did'nt want to return. After all, this place offers average to below average looking dancers..dancers who get trashed late in the evening, dancers who are interested only in their cell phones, A manager who is disrespectful towards the dancers. Oh, plus I have stopped in at times late afternoons and there are no dancers ready. They were all probably at Stars.

Why just Saturday?  on Spot 25

posted on July 30, 2007
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The reason there weren't many girls on Saturday (only about 5 when I stopped) was that there were a dozen girls there all week and almost no customers... why does everyone wait until Saturday? How would you feel if u showed up for work every day and ended up paying more to get and be there than u made? Would it make u want to keep coming in. Mgmt planned for a busy week and customers didn't show. Can u really blame them for wanting a Saturday off?

Bob  on Spot 25

posted on July 29, 2007
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Since no one responded to my question about EAA I thought I would stop in and see for myself. stoped saturday night after the air show and there was the bartender calling girls begging them to come in. That was fun so i headed home and saved a couple hundred in tips, drinks, and dances.

Bob  on Spot 25

posted on July 22, 2007
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anything different planned for the EAA this week or will it be busness as usual. how are the crowds, if its to packed ill wait a week for a visit

Jason  on Spot 25

posted on July 9, 2007
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This club is very poorly run. I can only come here in the afternoon/early evening and many times, they only have 1 girl working, or sometimes none at all. If the club opens at 3, they should have girls ready to dance at 3. About the only good thing this club has going for it is Jodi the bartender.

someone  on Spot 25

posted on July 5, 2007
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i have worked with you in the past ava and yes you are. well you at least have sex with diffrent people alot thats all good bye.

re: ava  on Spot 25

posted on July 3, 2007
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Cherish that one customer of yours; you'll need to work at another half dozen clubs to find another one. Anyone who's ever been to a club you unfortunately work at knows you give "favors". If anyone should be depressed, it's you. Look at yourself, your total lack of talent and education and what you have to do for a living just to barely pay your bills. Try using some common sence or your apparent there lack of. Look how fuckin' nasty you are now and just imagine how scary you'll look in 5 years. I'm having nightmares just thinking about it.

ava  on Spot 25

posted on July 2, 2007
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that wasn't me saying i had a stalker, it was a customer you dumbass.i have never been a prostitute so quit makin up lies.your obviously a hater.i think you should work a little bit on who [or what]you are, because you don't sound very happy with yourself.try therapy and anti-depressants.and if that don't work there's always the mental health ward.peace

dagger  on Spot 25

posted on July 1, 2007
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i was there it suck not much to say about it , but know down the road the girls look got and got talent on stage the rock. it worth buying them a drink they atleast talk with you and dont bitch as much so i suggest going there not here.

re; AVA  on Spot 25

posted on July 1, 2007
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I wouldn't touch your fat ass with your dick, much less mine. Who the fuck is stalking you? It sounds like your desperate ass wishes for that kind of companionship. People hate you everywhere you go so it shouldn't be a surprise that you constantly get negative comments. You're just a fat nasty cunt who has an attitude from years of disrespect and rejection. You have nothing, not even a "stalker" and the only reason people come to see you are for the cheap 20 dollar blowjobs. Keep up the good work; I'm sure your family is proud.

Yukon  on Spot 25

posted on June 29, 2007
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Does Simone still work here?

ava  on Spot 25

posted on June 28, 2007
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so which pissed off dancer are you?why don't you settle your problem with me outside the clubs?name a time and a place and i will beat the shit out of you!nevermind, thats right you are to afraid to reveal who you are even on the internet.i suggest you listen to a song called "you wouldn't know" by the band "hell yeah."and i hope you choke on the lyrics you loser.

re: to ava  on Spot 25

posted on June 28, 2007
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get a life. You follow her to every club she works at. You must like something you see, otherwise you would not be following her. The fact is you are a loser who can not score with Ava. Go back to wearing your mom's panty and jerking off. It is the most useful thing you can do.

to ava  on Spot 25

posted on June 28, 2007
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How many clubs do you work at? The problem isn't the clientele, it's you. You're a fuckin' cancer. Wake up and get some direction or Jenny Craig; whichever one you might actually understand, you stupid cunt.

CC  on Spot 25

posted on June 22, 2007
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Dances are $15. I tried to change it, but it didn't stick.

ava  on Spot 25

posted on June 18, 2007
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hey steve, how are you?i'm back at tnt where the girls are cool and there's no drama.you should come visit.have you been there before?if not, i guarantee that you'll enjoy it.i'm booked thursday, friday and saturday.they open at 7 and we start dancing at 8.hope to see you soon.

Steve  on Spot 25

posted on June 14, 2007
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Ava hope to see you soon. let me know where you will be working.

re;guess who  on Spot 25

posted on June 14, 2007
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Can u read????i was at the op and furthermore not speaking to anybody but steve.quit hating, you moron.dense people need to be banned from the internet.have fun with your hatin a$$.joke is on you........................

GUESS WHO???  on Spot 25

posted on June 13, 2007
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Yuck! Ava is still working here?? she is so fucking nasty! go on a diet and get your titties lifted. GROSS.

hi  on Spot 25

posted on June 2, 2007
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Yah, this place is better than Naughty Girls by default. And I still wouldn't wanna go because it always sucks here.

AVA  on Spot 25

posted on June 1, 2007
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hey steve, what's up?i just wanted to let you know that i am booked at the op next week mon, wed, thur and fri.so i hope you can come visit finally!i hope to see you there.

customer  on Spot 25

posted on June 1, 2007
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The girls I believe get a "commission" for buying them a $6 or $12 dancer drink. I also have had it happen many times u buy the lady a drink then they spend 1 or 2 minutes with you...or they start talking to another customer or go to the dressing room...sorry none of that bs worthy of an extra "tip". On the plus side the LM is better than the nudie club down the street.

STUFF  on Spot 25

posted on June 1, 2007
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These are all good solutions, and I think its fine if a dancers needs a drink to get up on stage, but some of'em have def. had one too many. If I owned this joint I'd clean house.. remodel the inside so its more modern and not just a hole in the wall bar; I've seen some pretty nice clubs.. granted they need to make money to do that and make money they are not.. I think this place should just close up and reopen as a regular bar. There's no money in stripping at this joint. Unless they overhaul the place, I don't see any change in it. No one wants to go, it has a bad reputation with awful dancers, and none of the girls want to work (mostly). If anything, keep the good dancers, the personable ones and can the rest.. quality over quantity.

Steve  on Spot 25

posted on May 31, 2007
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I wrote the comment "the problem with". I thank you for adding your comments and I agree it is not worth it for the girls to dance for 1 guy. Yes the girls should at least be dressed and ready to spend time with a guy. This is were blame falls completely on the guys. I hear guys refuse to buy a drink until a lady dances. What a bunch of bull. Just buy her a drink. Next guys need to tip more than $1. These girls work hard and that dollar is not worth a lot today. Finally if a girl is nice enough to spend time with you, you at least owe her some money for her time. I will tip $10, $20 or $50 depending on how nice she was and how much time she spent with me. Girls it helps if you are good at making small talk.

Italiana  on Spot 25

posted on May 31, 2007
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Hey everyone! Hey I come in later not cus I want to, but have another job.I agree dancers should get ready actually before they get to work and then get dressed when they get to work, they should be out at the bar and ready to go up on stage, but as a dancer no matter where you are you most likely will not see dancers go on stage until there are atleast three guys. Early in the day on most instances if you dance for one guy he is usually just stopping in for a cold one not a hot one, so you are aimlessly watching each other anticipating nothing. Danced 13 years can say that for a fact! So to solve this the girls should atleast be dressed at the bar maybe to do some lap dances or share a drink with a guy.

re: the problem with  on Spot 25

posted on May 31, 2007
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I agree with the comment 100%. Last wk I stopped in around 5:00 and there were 4 dancers there but not a single one was "ready" to go on stage. I had 1 beer and left. If there were some dancers actually on stage when I stop in I would stay around longer.

the problem with  on Spot 25

posted on May 31, 2007
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this club begin with the dancers. The girls arrive when they feel like it. Then they sit around in street clothes and want to start drinking. After they get their drink they sit in the dressing room for an hour. Don't tell me it takes that long to get dressed because when Gary tells them they can have a drink after they are dressed, it only takes them 5 or 10 minutes. The girls need to come out with a little happiness and a smile, not sitting at one end of the bar complaining. If a guy wants to hear women complain he can stay home and listen to his wife. Guys are not without blame here. Stop calling the dancers bad names and complaining about how they look. If you look better get your ass up on stage.

Ya  on Spot 25

posted on May 31, 2007
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I agree with that. This place needs a new approach to it all.

Loner  on Spot 25

posted on May 28, 2007
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the place has gotton a bad rap for reasons everyone knows. but it is the nature of the business. If the manager wasnt in there complaining and bitchin, and if there was a younger coooool guy at the door and on the mic he wouldnt have to be on the girls! I dont mean on them litterally, but if he knew how to have fun and do the job right he wouldnt have to bitch because the club would draw more people and make the ladies more money! No problem! get rid of Gary and find an exciting manager or hire zonea to run the place and hire an MC/door man!!

SUCKS again  on Spot 25

posted on May 27, 2007
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OK, you weren't paying attention. It's OK, I'm sure it wasn't clear enough. I was at the freakin' stage, I tipped the dancer. Before her last song she said" can you give me more money, I really need it for rent." While she was on stage. She didn't do any snappy lil tricks, just begging for money simple. It wasn't a tip walk, I know what that is. She was just a tip-poor dancer chick leaching money the stupid way. If all you made was $106, it prob. came from one guy. This place sucks, why don't you guys post photos and let the visitors here judge for themselves who can't see you in person. You're just trying to protect what little client?le you do have.

Steve  on Spot 25

posted on May 24, 2007
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I go to clubs in milwaukee, fond du lac and oshkosh and the girls all report that business is slow. yes gas prices are killing everyone.

Italiana  on Spot 25

posted on May 24, 2007
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Well, for the guy who thinks this place sucks, maybe you are just unlucky, because I worked last night and it wasn't busy, but I only worked from 5:00 to 9:00 made 106.00 after tip out. So I don't know what you are talking about, oh by the way I don't have to pay rent so there! Also I do agree you shouldn't do a tip walk if you didn't dance, but if you do tip walk is pretty standard, some guys don't want to go to the stage, for the ones who already went to the stage then say no, atleast for me its no big deal. Well actaully alot of places have not been very busy so you can't say it's just this place. GAS is depleting everyone I don't care if you have money or not!

Re: sucks  on Spot 25

posted on May 24, 2007
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It is called a tip walk. All dancers do it. A club does not have to be busy to be good. I like that fact that the place is not always full of customers. When I am in any club and I am the only guy, I tell the club it is ok if no one is dancing. I buy the girls a round of drinks and it makes them all feel better. I agree with the girls it is a waste of time to be dancing for one guy. I would rather have them sit with me.

Sucks  on Spot 25

posted on May 24, 2007
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This place sucks, and I'll tell you why, I went there 3 times, just to be sure.. all three times were different days, two were weekends. You would think ONCE it would be busy, negative. On two occasions the girls didn't even want to dance because no one was in the bar. (except me) On the one time there were dancers DANCING, i went to the table to tip, I tip just fine.. but would you believe when it came to the last song for a couple dancers they'd just come over and ask for $$ because "it was rent time." That's a sign no one in this place rakes in more than $100 a night, sorry but you're full of it if you think you can get anything out of this place. A dancer should NEVER ask for a tip. And she wasn't even dancing.

Steve  on Spot 25

posted on May 23, 2007
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I agree with Italiana. This is a nice club. It is what you make of it. I have been there on good nights and bad nights. In most cases it is the guys who determine the kind of night it will be. When the guys are assholes, the girls are not happy and the guys leave disappointed. When the guys treat the girls with respect, the girls will give you a night not soon forgoten. This is the only club in Oshkosh I will visit because I can always depend on the girls to treat me well.

Slider  on Spot 25

posted on May 22, 2007
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Stopped in tonight... there were six girls there and I would have to say that 4 out of the six were definitely well above average, I got a dance from Kim, and I wish I would have gotten two.

Italiana  on Spot 25

posted on May 22, 2007
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Hey, it is not that bad! Some days your lucky some not. I've never had a bad night unless nobody came in the bar, happens sometimes. I never made under a hundred a night. Don't even stay all night. The landmark may not be as high class as some , but at times it can be real fun. People make the best of the situation, you are there to have a good time not complain (dancers & customers). Dancers deserve respect for being brave enough to get on stage. Even if you don't like them you should keep it to yourself, I am sure you are not perfect yourself. Hopefully when you guys stop in there will be girls and hot ones. I will be working definitely Wednesday from like 5:00 to 9:00/10:00 and maybe Thursday/Friday

Go to the OP  on Spot 25

posted on May 22, 2007
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Sativa and Billie are both at the OP in Fond du lac. I have always liked the Landmark and I go there as often as I can. Gary runs a nice club and if you bring money the girls pay attention to you.

Yah  on Spot 25

posted on May 22, 2007
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I don't think "doing all you can" includes bitching at dancers in front of customers to the point they feel uncomfortable to be there and leave. That stuffs not for the floor, save it for afterwards. It ruins the place. Listening to people bitch back and forth is not entertainment, nor is this place.

aww  on Spot 25

posted on May 22, 2007
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poor girl- your shit finally caught up with you!~

ava  on Spot 25

posted on May 20, 2007
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you really need to quit making shit up.i never called your wife.i don't know who you are but you need to get a life.it is however, a little convenient that i get fired and now someone comes on here saying this b.s.i have a feeling this is a dancer, bartender or customer that is a friend of one or both.i am dancing at tnt this thursday and saturday.

go  on Spot 25

posted on May 20, 2007
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the guy below is right, Gary can't control how fat and ugly the dancers are. I saw ONE decent one there within the last month = and she is trying to retire from all the shit she receives from the scavengers around her. I miss the old days, with Sativa, Mandy, Billie. Damn, where did they go?

To Ava  on Spot 25

posted on May 20, 2007
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just read your coment from 5/7 You already know who I am , no bartender but I do work for the owner. And evry one that knows me knows I stick up for the dancers before anyone. As for the comment about turning it into a regular bar, I have made that suggestion more than once. Garys hands are tied in alot of ways and you cant put the blame on him. I give him credit because he does do all he can.

Case in point  on Spot 25

posted on May 20, 2007
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This joint needs to close down. It sucks. The dancers aren't that great, no one goes there for that. If it were a regular bar, they might get some people down there. Tear out the dance floor and turn it into a bar with some pool tables. The dance thing is done here, no one comes here for that. It's never busy, you're not gonna make any money dancing here. The management sucks and they yell at dancers all the time.. how fun is that crap to listen to.. It's a shitty strip joint.. go to a bar and sell the club to someone else.

To Ava Hater  on Spot 25

posted on May 18, 2007
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So she had you name and number, then you were looking for more than just a fun time at the club. I just wanted to be her friend is code for if she will let me I would love to fuck her. Grow up already guy and leave it alone. No need to call her fat. Is Ava skinny? no , but she is still very hot and I would love to be her big tipper one night. Ava please let us know next time you are in town.

TO enough already  on Spot 25

posted on May 17, 2007
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She had my name and number-and my landline is also in the phone book with my wife's.She may stop in sometime and buy Ava's fat ass a drink naughty girls, where she belongs!Any loser that wants to do that fat broad, can-I never wanted to, all I wanted was her friendship.But the bitch is a drunk needs to hold her mouth and her little temper in check.

ava  on Spot 25

posted on May 17, 2007
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im a trouble maker?all i ever did at lm was sell drinks and dance.otherwise known as "MY JOB"and all you"PROFFESSIONAL"people did was dump all over me for no reason.especially gary and a certain bartender.yep that was me about making a complaint about a cust. and gary then yelled at me infront of the entire bar saying he "didn't need dancers, he could turn it into a regular bar."btw im a size 13 u hater.i know im pretty.thanks for wishing me luck.

enough already  on Spot 25

posted on May 17, 2007
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I have a hard time believing any dancer would call a guys wife. First of all how did she get your name and number? Second if she had your name and number then you were more than just a regular customer. You were getting action outside the club or at least looking to get action. So in the end you got what you were asking for. I know Ava from talking with her at the OP and she has more class then to call a guy's wife. She is hot enough that if she really wanted to do extra outside of the club she would have more than a enough guys wanting to do her that she would not have time to call your wife. I bet I know why you are mad, she turned you down, oh poor baby.

Truth?  on Spot 25

posted on May 17, 2007
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Wow, if that's the truth your name is George W. Bush.. I have no biases, I've been to this place a couple times and I can say I'm not going back. To listen to the management yell at their girls, and to run a place so pathetically, most bars would be out of business. I don't know how they afford to keep the doors open. On "busy" Friday nights there is practically no one there, because no one wants to hear them bitch at their girls.. They treat them bad. It's sad, some are good, most aren't worth seeing. But to have management demean them is horrible, and it DOES happen. Anyone lying on here is just trying to keep this place from being shut down.

The truth  on Spot 25

posted on May 16, 2007
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hereis the deal! Ava is fat and a trouble maker! wife calling nosey snoop that is as sloppy in the mouth as she is in the panties! Take your size 24 ass back to nasty girls. Trin is a snitch.Jodi the bartender(aka ZONAY) is still the hottest lady in the club.Holla if ya hear me!

localcustomer  on Spot 25

posted on May 16, 2007
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Good luck Ava. I dont things will ever change at the landmark. last 2 times i was there no girls were ready to dance by 515pm. that is no good for us people who can only get there late afternoons.

local customer  on Spot 25

posted on May 16, 2007
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one more picture!!!!!

local customer  on Spot 25

posted on May 16, 2007
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pictures of the beautiful ava!!!!!

ava  on Spot 25

posted on May 16, 2007
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i have no fucking idea what your talking about?????i have never called anybodys wife.are you high or what????quit making up lies no-life loser.and gary[crackhead]put up with my shit ?you two must get high together cuz you got it all wrong.gary is alot of things, but manager is not one of them.he lets cust. do whatever thy want and leaves dancers to fend for themselves.lowlife.

I think  on Spot 25

posted on May 16, 2007
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we can see Ava's silence here is more than golden. and for the record, no I wasn't 'seeing' her- I was only tipping her and feeding her bottomless stomach drinks. that's all! she got mad when I didn't come out to see her! that's why she called my wife!

To Ava  on Spot 25

posted on May 16, 2007
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I hope what this last guys said is not true. When anyone gets involed with a married person ( guy or woman) they have to always accept that the other person might go back to the husband or wife. It is a risk you take and it is best to just let it go.

buh bye ava!  on Spot 25

posted on May 14, 2007
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it's about time they got your big ass out that door. i can't believe gary tolerated your shit for as long as he did. just how many other wives did you call when their husbands stopped coming to seer you? thanks for ruining my marraige, you cunt.

ava  on Spot 25

posted on May 14, 2007
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well i am booked at tnt this thursday, friday and saturday.i hope you come visit.they open at 7 and we start dancing at 8.

TNT  on Spot 25

posted on May 13, 2007
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That's a cool place, it's worth the trip, nice quiet cozy joint out in the middle of no where but fun :)

ava  on Spot 25

posted on May 12, 2007
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i start work at 4:15.are you going to come visit me?im still waiting on that confirmation for a booking in clyman for tnt.that is a drive though[an hour and 1/2]from oshkosh.don't know if you'd go that far.hope to see you.

To Ava  on Spot 25

posted on May 11, 2007
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Please let us know where you will be working. I will start watching the Naughty Girls site. When will you start on Saturday at Naughty Girls?

ava  on Spot 25

posted on May 11, 2007
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if anyone wishes to come see me i will be at naughty girls tonight[fri] and tomorrow[sat]and i am waiting to confirm a booking at tnt for next week.i will keep you posted.

Email  on Spot 25

posted on May 9, 2007
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Weirdo, I already emailed her the workout stuff. Quit trying to email people without permission. :P

RE Email  on Spot 25

posted on May 9, 2007
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So just to be sure, you are actually Chole not a patron?

I'm not chloe  on Spot 25

posted on May 8, 2007
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I was just a random person offering to give her training/workout tips.

ava  on Spot 25

posted on May 7, 2007
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well alliya was saying things behind my back so myob.and yes i desperately want the body of a 12 yr old.lol your funny!certain lil brown nosers are why i was fired so once again myob. were you there?if so identify yourself.i don't kiss anybodys behind that is why i can't wrk there anymore.so get your facts straight.are you by chance a certain bartender?i bet you are......

local customer  on Spot 25

posted on May 7, 2007
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Yes, I agree Aaliyah is cute.

Dancer  on Spot 25

posted on May 7, 2007
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Ava, I don't know who you are. I haven't worked here in over 3 years, but it's really unprofessional to bash other dancers on here. Club owners and managers do read this website, and do you really think they're going to want to hire someone who talks shit and causes drama? If you don't like another dancer, it's best to keep it to yourself.

to Ava  on Spot 25

posted on May 7, 2007
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You got fired for a reason called attitude. Aaliyah is pretty your just jealous because shes small, and you really have no right or reason to bash anyone.

To Chole  on Spot 25

posted on May 7, 2007
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So why don't you post your e-mail? Your not a dancer? I don't get it?

hi  on Spot 25

posted on May 7, 2007
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We'll have to see. I just figured you could use some tips. I'm not a dancer.

To Chole  on Spot 25

posted on May 6, 2007
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I hate to post my e-mail on a public page, otherwise I would love too chat with you. Why don't you come down to the LM sometime for a drink and interduce your self to everyone, you wouldn't have to dance?

Chloe  on Spot 25

posted on May 6, 2007
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Give me a month with ya, and we'll burn a few pounds off, I mean actual working out nothing sexual. Give me your email I'll send you some good workout tips.

Chloe  on Spot 25

posted on May 6, 2007
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Well, the first wek of working out , isnt... lol. But happy to say, I have lost two pounds through diet and body wraps. Now, if I could just get rid of this cellulite on my arse, Id be good to go. Is it pretty dark in there???

Kud-Joe  on Spot 25

posted on May 5, 2007
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I heard Sativa came back to WI and is working in Beloit. Any truth to that?

To Ava  on Spot 25

posted on May 5, 2007
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Sorry to hear about the firing. I hope you will let us know where you will be working. I agree with you, you are pretty. I would not kick you out of my bed. S

LM  on Spot 25

posted on May 5, 2007
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Honestly, I've been to Landmark, and it's obvious they don't post pics because they don't want you to be disappointed before you even walk in the door.

Club Goer...  on Spot 25

posted on May 4, 2007
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OK... If u want to see what the girls at the Landmark look like... instead of sitting at home waiting for a picture to jerk off to... go down to the Landmark and see the girls yourself... ya know with your own eyes... not just on a computer screen... that is if u are even old enough to get in. It's always better to see things with your own eyes, besides it gives u a chance to talk to the girls and the hot bartenders.

to Ava  on Spot 25

posted on May 4, 2007
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were will you be dancing, please put it on here so i can see ya there, i was going to stop this week but im flexible, and can go somplace else, and yup you are very beautyful and i made it a point to come see you when i wanted to know what you looked like. hope to see ya soon

ava  on Spot 25

posted on May 4, 2007
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well thanks for bashing me for no reason!i know i'm pretty so it doesn't even matter what you think.besides i won't be at lm anymore cuz "IT" fired me for no reason.uuuuuummmmm alliya is good looking, maybe with a paper bag over her head.lol.you could also post your name since you know so much.....on to bigger and better things.i'll let you all know if i pick up the crack.then maybe, just maybe i will be good enough...........

Someone who knows  on Spot 25

posted on May 4, 2007
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The reason there are no pictures of the ladies who don't have one is because they don't want you to know what they really look like any girl who looks halfway decent has a pic or can atleast find a way to get one, if they are on the computer then we know they are atleast computer literate. There are some nice girls that look good at the landmark like Aleigha, Italiana, Gwen and some others but they are rarely there so its a gamble!

hi  on Spot 25

posted on May 4, 2007
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No pictures at all? It'd be cool if the ladies at the club got together and took a group pic and put it up, i'm sure people would like to see who you all are :) And hey, I got the camera if you want a few ;)

ava  on Spot 25

posted on May 3, 2007
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sorry, i don't have any pics.i cannot believe how empty it was in there last night.i guess i'm going to start robbing banks.lol.tips much appreciated.

TO Chole  on Spot 25

posted on May 3, 2007
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Well hows the first week of working out? Are we going to see you anytime soon?

Ava/Lela  on Spot 25

posted on May 3, 2007
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That's cool can you post a picture or send me one :) I'd like to see

ava  on Spot 25

posted on May 2, 2007
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we are voluptuous, exotic looking women who get this....actually know how to dance;)oh and we are intelligent also.dark curly hair[mine long, hers medium]i have green eyes and lela has a cool color of brown.we are fun thats what i can say!

Ava/Lela  on Spot 25

posted on May 2, 2007
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Do you have a picture, what do you girls look like :)

ava  on Spot 25

posted on May 1, 2007
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hey steve of course i remember you.hope to see you there.probably won't be in at open though because i hurt my back today.and damn does it hurt!

Thought  on Spot 25

posted on May 1, 2007
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You ladies should all pool your money together and buy it out. I agree with the one beer and out kick. It's no fun staying around. Even when it's empty if they had something going on to keep everyone occupied people would stay. The girls and bartender should socialize more with everyone. Don't huddle in groups. It's more fun that way. You make some tips too!

Steve  on Spot 25

posted on April 30, 2007
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Ava, I will try to get up and see you. I hope you remember me.

ava & lela  on Spot 25

posted on April 30, 2007
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hey everyone, we will be dancing wednesday, thursday, saturday and sunday.and let me say its not easy working there, but we try to make it fun as much as possible!hope to see you all there.we're in love with a tipper.peace

agreed  on Spot 25

posted on April 30, 2007
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Yes I totally agree it is a poorly managed club. I have been there many times late afternoons and no girls were there to dance. I have my one drink then leave. I think the L M could be alot of better with proper management.

Italiana  on Spot 25

posted on April 29, 2007
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Hey guys, I will be at the Landing Strip on Wednesday and Friday! If anything atleast come up and see all the other hot girls! It's worth the trip.

re: dancer  on Spot 25

posted on April 29, 2007
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So are you still working there or did you quit?

dancer  on Spot 25

posted on April 28, 2007
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i completely agree that lm is very poorly managed.a customer was totally disrespecting me and of coarse i defended myself and management berated me in front of the entire bar.i guess i was suposed to sit there and let the guy say or do whatever he wanted, however that didn't fly with me because i don't take crap from anybody.perhaps if we had proper management the place could be something great.

Sell  on Spot 25

posted on April 28, 2007
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This place is so poorly managed it's unbelievable. On a Friday night there was NO ONE dancing even. And the people there to dance, weren't worth watching. I would avoid this place until they get new ownership. Very disappointing. Even the bartender said "I need another job."

RE To Chole  on Spot 25

posted on April 27, 2007
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Well you sound like a sweet heart, either way I'm sure you will have plenty of fans!

Thunder76  on Spot 25

posted on April 27, 2007
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Hey how's it going at the Landmark!

Fluff  on Spot 25

posted on April 26, 2007
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There are fluffier girls than you at Landmark.. I have no doubt.

Not yet...  on Spot 25

posted on April 26, 2007
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No, I have not been back to dancing yet. I do have a job currently, and am debating if it is worth it to give it up for one last whirl around the pole. hahaha.... I think I will hit the gym for about six weeks and then decide. I am still a little "fluffier" than I would like to be. Thanks for asking though. I do appreciate it!

To Chole  on Spot 25

posted on April 24, 2007
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So have you made your return to dancing?

Sup  on Spot 25

posted on April 24, 2007
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Is there any photos of the dancers online somewhere? If not put a few on here. I'm sure we'd all like to see that this place has to offer instead of hear about it.

Slider  on Spot 25

posted on April 23, 2007
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Stopped in Sunday, had a blast. There weren't alot of people there but Miki was alot of fun... so was Brenda.

ava&lela  on Spot 25

posted on April 23, 2007
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we are dancing thursday and saturday this week.we hope its not as dead as it was last week.peace

CM  on Spot 25

posted on April 19, 2007
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Well if they need help setting one up let me know ;)

G  on Spot 25

posted on April 17, 2007
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I agree..a myspace page is a good idea. Myself I only stop in this place once a wk or once every other wk.

=)  on Spot 25

posted on April 17, 2007
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You guys should get a myspace site or something. Anyone interested in going out to this place as a group =D

ava  on Spot 25

posted on April 14, 2007
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it was nice meeting you also, even though it was brief.lela and i will be dancing sun[15th] fri and sat[20th, 21st]hope to see you there.im in love with a tipper.peace.

CM  on Spot 25

posted on April 14, 2007
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Bikini bars are kinda dull, they have one in Fondy. I'd rather see the chicks at Landmark, at least they look good and they're naked lol almost.

to Ava  on Spot 25

posted on April 13, 2007
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it was great to meet you and layla the other nite. sorry i had to leave so early but it was a long day and the longer i stayed the more i thought i should get home before i got snowed in. ill stop in some time when im on the way out instead of the way home and spend some time there.... your both really sexy

Surprise  on Spot 25

posted on April 12, 2007
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hey its Vixxxen.. Just wanted to say hey to my girlz. i miss ya all alot. iIplan to stop in some time, ill let Shandi know when. Hello to all love and stuff hope to see ya all real soon... tell gary to have my shot of tequila ready...hahaha xoxoxoxoxo Triple X=VIXXXEN

hmmm  on Spot 25

posted on April 10, 2007
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Wow! the old Split Level bar is turning into a bikini bar...I dont travel down 9th too much so didnt realise a change was being made. should be interesting...

CM  on Spot 25

posted on April 8, 2007
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Is this place open all Sundays, including Easter? And if it is who's working, I'm bored lol

Re Auditioning  on Spot 25

posted on April 8, 2007
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Best of luck, if you do return on a regular basis keep us posted on your schedule so we can try to make it down.

auditioning  on Spot 25

posted on April 8, 2007
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I will need to wait until my schedule permits to audition. Hopefully sometime the week after this one. I work a night shift job currently, (it really SUCKS!) so I need to find a day when I am not exhausted from work. I really hope to see you soon. Thanks for being supportive!

Re Auditioning  on Spot 25

posted on April 7, 2007
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Chole, how about one day next week for the auditions, weekends can sometimes be to busy for tippers to stop in! Regardless of what day, I'm sure you will be great. Always nice to see new faces.

to Chloe  on Spot 25

posted on April 7, 2007
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Please keep us updated on your first night. I very much would like to be there.

Auditioning  on Spot 25

posted on April 7, 2007
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Can you audition any time? I am off next Sunday, and would be interested in giving it a whirl.... What the hell? I dont have to return if I embarrass myself :) Chloe

Steve  on Spot 25

posted on April 6, 2007
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Hi Ava I hope you enjoy your week off. Look forward to your return. Maybe we can talk more next time I see you working.

ava  on Spot 25

posted on April 6, 2007
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there was four of us dancing sun., not two.don't remember any "big chick" but i was very over tired.if you had a good time then i hope you continue to come in.lela and i have the week off but next week we are dancing tues, wed and fri so far.sat is a possibility.perhaps we can talk then.don't know what you mean when you say "maybe more."im in luv with a tipper!peace.

To Ava  on Spot 25

posted on April 6, 2007
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When will you be working this week? Would love to see you and spend time talking. maybe more.

cm  on Spot 25

posted on April 6, 2007
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i didn't say it was a dancer man; the two girls that worked were attractive, i'm talking about the big chick on the side near the recliner who was sitting on that dude's lap rubbing him off, you know the one the bartender yelled at about not getting a drink! The chicks on the dance floor were good. I thought the last girl of the night was funny, cause she's obviously new. The one before here was cute to. To bad you can't take #s lol

ava  on Spot 25

posted on April 5, 2007
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ummm.....i worked sun and so did my girl[and yes we r voluptuous]but i can assure you there was no sex of any kind.better get your eyes checked.by the way we were the only attractive dancers there!

Chole  on Spot 25

posted on April 5, 2007
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Thank you for letting me know, I look forward to stopping in and seeing you! I don't have a stage name? Give me one LOL!!!!!!

CM  on Spot 25

posted on April 5, 2007
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I stopped in at this place just before bar time. It was a Sunday, so it was quiet, but I had a good time. I think some large chick was having bar stool sex on the side but, I tried not too watch. The last two dances of the night were cute. ;)

Stage name  on Spot 25

posted on April 3, 2007
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My stage name is Chloe...although some may know me as Hannah , back in the day!

Lookin'4Lefty  on Spot 25

posted on April 3, 2007
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Sativa's back??? I can only hope it is true.

re: re: thanks  on Spot 25

posted on April 3, 2007
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Yes, I would like to know your "stage name" too...always nice to see new faces at the landmark.

Wondering  on Spot 25

posted on April 3, 2007
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I hear Sativa is back in town. Will she be dancing at the Landmark soon???

Re Thanks  on Spot 25

posted on April 2, 2007
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You haven't told us the most important thing.........Your stage name?

thanks!  on Spot 25

posted on April 2, 2007
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Thanks for being cool , guys! It makes me feel better about returning. No, Naughty Girls is not too great to work at. I am no prude, but the things they allowed there.... GROSS!!!

ava&lela  on Spot 25

posted on March 31, 2007
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hey everybody, hope all is well.we r dancing tonight[31st]and tomorrow[1st]lela is new to the landmark so welcome her, she is a hottie![people often think we are sisters]peace.

To returning dancer  on Spot 25

posted on March 31, 2007
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I agree Naughty girls is not the place to work. Everyone in that place is unpleasant to talk to. Please remember do what will make you happy. The landmark is like any other club they still get some asshole customers. Look forward to seeing you when you are ready to return.

RE RE WORKING  on Spot 25

posted on March 31, 2007
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Let us know when you will be there so we can try to make it down. You sound very voluptous and beautiful, thats why I asked for the pic, plus I don't get down their that offten. Take care

Cool  on Spot 25

posted on March 30, 2007
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You guys seem really cool. I quit because I had some negative comments about my weight, so I was kind of embarrassed.It really isnt that bad, just a tummy roll I could do without! I worked at Naughty Girls before I moved to Appleton from up north, but, they seem to screw you on your pay! It seems like the Landmark is a little more relaxed. I am sure I will be there soon. As for pic, I do have some, but cannot download them from work computer!!! See you guys pretty soon!

To returning dancer  on Spot 25

posted on March 30, 2007
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I agree that you seem in good shape already. I do not think you need to post a pic here for us to see. A few extra pounds is not a bad thing. It has never kept me from tipping or talking with a dancer. If losing a few pounds will make you feel better, before you return to dancing then go for it. Your happiness is the most important thing. Please let us know when your first night is and I will do my best to be there. I think the Landmark is one of the nicer clubs, that is why I go there.

RE. RE. WORKING  on Spot 25

posted on March 30, 2007
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Any chance you would post a pic for us?

Thanks  on Spot 25

posted on March 30, 2007
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Thanks for your vote of confidence. I hope to get there by summer. Maybe I can get a little closer to my old form by then! I do have implants, but am not sure how it would go with my weight a little higher than I would like to be in a G string! I really miss dancing though, not to mention the money!

RE: Working  on Spot 25

posted on March 29, 2007
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As a customer I would say you sound good. Give the Landmark a call and then post here when ou will start and I will try my best to come and see you.

Working  on Spot 25

posted on March 29, 2007
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I used to dance but retired. I am 36, but a little heavier than I was, 5 ft 9 155. I was wondering, are all your dancers small and your young? Or do I have a shot? I am kind of hoping to dance again.

They dancers are hot  on Spot 25

posted on March 26, 2007
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There are many hot dancers at the Landmark. Yes I will agree Ava can make a man hard, but so do many of the other dancers. The only dancer that I find boring to watch and even worse to talk to is Tiger.

Slider  on Spot 25

posted on March 24, 2007
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Are you kidding!, if you where in club for any length of time you would see many great dancers, you want curves stop by and see Italiana and Simone.and BTW Ava still works on ocasion.

Where r they?!  on Spot 25

posted on March 24, 2007
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This club is a joke. Now that kinya and ava aren't here the club sux! They are SMOKIN HOT! You people hav cataracts!!! Bring back great boobs and great curves!!!!

Saturday  on Spot 25

posted on March 20, 2007
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Was there Saturday afternoon. Had a great time. Thanks for quick break from supervising the High School kids. Hope next time I can stay longer. The new girls are hot.

Blue  on Spot 25

posted on March 14, 2007
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All the B*tchin' about the dancers, What about the bartenders! Jody, Shandy and Becca they are hot! Smoking Hot!!!!!!!

marilyn  on Spot 25

posted on March 11, 2007
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billie will be here sun. 3 11 hope to see you too

loner  on Spot 25

posted on March 8, 2007
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I have to agree, I deal with listening to alot of these girls on a daily basis. The guys need to get a better attitude first. Just because your mad at your wife dont bring it to the club. Its a place to relax and forget whatever bothers you. The girls differ as do mens taste in women. AND MOST OF ALL dont judge what you dont know.

Ray  on Spot 25

posted on March 6, 2007
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I hope Billie does come back, and sOOn!

Jimbo  on Spot 25

posted on March 5, 2007
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Thanx 4 responding. Too bad no Sativa - she is a sweet lady wit a freaky side late nite. Anyhow, I'll be packin' and lookin' 4 a hot time next Friday. See y'all then!

hi  on Spot 25

posted on March 5, 2007
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tell billie rebecca says hi and come see us soon

RE jimbo  on Spot 25

posted on March 3, 2007
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i think that billie said she would be in oshkosh next week- but i'm not sure.otherwise she will be in fond du lac.

Re : Jimbo  on Spot 25

posted on March 3, 2007
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Billie still works here but she also works at the OP in Fond du lac. Sativa is in Florida.

Jimbo  on Spot 25

posted on March 2, 2007
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I'll be up next weekend Fri-Sat looking to hook-up. Billie or Sativa still around? Hope all the fine fine ladies are doin' well and the joint is crackin'.

marilyn  on Spot 25

posted on February 27, 2007
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hi steve im working fri. sat & sun this weeking come see me and the dancers r great too

Steve  on Spot 25

posted on February 26, 2007
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Marilyn will you be working on Thursday or Friday this week? I hope to get there one of those two days.

marilyn  on Spot 25

posted on February 26, 2007
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thank you steve for letting me know ur name

it is me  on Spot 25

posted on February 25, 2007
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I am the guy who will be in next week. I am Steve a friend of Billie's. Will you be there?

marilyn  on Spot 25

posted on February 24, 2007
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who is next week please put your name in

Next week  on Spot 25

posted on February 23, 2007
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Next week I am hoping to be up there. Who is on the schedule?

marilyn  on Spot 25

posted on February 14, 2007
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happy val. day ava see u soon

Steve  on Spot 25

posted on February 13, 2007
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I am sorry to disagree but I do like Gary. Does he have his faults, yes but we all do. Does he seem to watch some dancers closer then other dancers, yes. He is nice to the customers. I am not there everyday so I should not say to much.

localcustomer  on Spot 25

posted on February 13, 2007
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I agree Gary should retire....also I believe there is another dancer named Ava that works in the area.

Steve  on Spot 25

posted on February 13, 2007
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I look forward to seeing you at the OP. Just let me know which nights. Thanks

ava  on Spot 25

posted on February 13, 2007
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sorry steve, i will be dancing out of town at tnt in clyman.maybe some other time though.i believe i am booking a few days at the op nxt wk.thankyou for the compliment i appreciate it.just wish i knew who scarerella was since it won't post its real name!i don't know when i'll be back at lm cuz this drama is for grade schoolers.

Re michelle  on Spot 25

posted on February 13, 2007
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Where will you be working now? Maybe you can try the OP with Billie. Sorry things did not work out for you with Gary. I think part of the problem is Gary got taken advantaged of in the earily years of the Landmark by the dnacers. Hope all goes well for you. Please try to OP. Would like to see you there.

lol  on Spot 25

posted on February 13, 2007
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Michelle before you cut on gary or tinity learn to spell !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

michelle  on Spot 25

posted on February 12, 2007
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Gary you are the worst manager ever i worker for two years and the only day i realy liked alot was my b-day. thanks for the flowers and cake. some things i miss like talking to shandy, and the girls but i dont miss trinity or you, trin is just crazy and i was not scared of her i was smarter that all lol, to shandy your the best so dont hat me i loved all of you but am glad im not aloud on the property. gary retire let some one else run it into the ground it smells stank.

marilyn  on Spot 25

posted on February 12, 2007
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greg greg greg come see me i miss you

Slider  on Spot 25

posted on February 12, 2007
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I have to admit that I personally I don't find Ava that appealing, but that doesn't change the fact that she has every right to be a dancer. Just because u (striperella, whoever has been argueing w/ ava, ect.) don't think she's attractive don't cut her down. It takes alot of courage to get up and take your clothes off for other people, and then have to dead w/ prick's like you. Everyones tastes are different, odviously u think that all dancers should be petite, or thin as a rail, there your wrong. Some people like big girls, some small, some asians, blacks, or hispanics. For a stripclub to be appealing to everyone u must have someone for everyone. JUST REMEMBER YMMV.. or for u that don't know Your Mileage May Vary.